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I thought with the apparent groundswell of support for the Lagom P-64 it would be good to have a thread dedicated to the grinder and it’s burrs set. 
 

I have a P-64 ordered for mid-May delivery, matt silver finish and Unimodal burrs. I am considering purchasing a set of the standard non coated burrs just in case I can’t get on with the Red Speed Unimodal burrs. 

Does anyone have a P-64 already?  Which burrs did you select? Did you buy any additional Burrs. Aside from SSP who sells appropriate sized Burrs. 

I’m almost 100% espresso these day with the occasional long black. 

How are people finding the grinder? 
are there any hints and tricks that owners can pass on

As example

when I contacted Option -O they recommended that the grinder did not benefit from seasoning burrs and encouraged me to just jump in and start making coffee.

Discuss. 
 

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@Karka which burrs did you order? I have to admit I’m flip flopping like a newly caught fish in a boat. I ordered HU burrs then sent an email asking to change that to Unimodal. Now after another email exchange with Sam they have recommended I opt for the HU burrs. My current thinking is that I will order two burr sets. The Unimodal and the standard burr set, just in case I can’t get on with the Unimodal. I’ve pushed the boat out on this purchase and can’t justify to myself two SSP burr sets at this point. 

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@Karka which burrs did you order? I have to admit I’m flip flopping like a newly caught fish in a boat. I ordered HU burrs then sent an email asking to change that to Unimodal. Now after another email exchange with Sam they have recommended I opt for the HU burrs. My current thinking is that I will order two burr sets. The Unimodal and the standard burr set, just in case I can’t get on with the Unimodal. I’ve pushed the boat out on this purchase and can’t justify to myself two SSP burr sets at this point. 
Is there a big difference between them? I mean BIG?
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@Dallah sorry didn’t make that clear. I went for the high uniformity burr set. 
 

@profesor_historia From what I understood the unimodal burrs are not really geared towards espresso. So for filter coffee the ideal would be that all grounds are identical in size. Sounds great for espresso too, but it turns out espresso gives a better texture and body when grounds have a slight variance in size. So for me it made sense for the high uniformity as I’ll drink 10-20 espresso a week but only 2-4 v60 per week. 

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1 hour ago, Karka said:

So for filter coffee the ideal would be that all grounds are identical in size. Sounds great for espresso too, but it turns out espresso gives a better texture and body when grounds have a slight variance in size.

All grinders produce a variance in size, no grinders produce particles identical in size.

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4 hours ago, profesor_historia said:
5 hours ago, Dallah said:
@Karka which burrs did you order? I have to admit I’m flip flopping like a newly caught fish in a boat. I ordered HU burrs then sent an email asking to change that to Unimodal. Now after another email exchange with Sam they have recommended I opt for the HU burrs. My current thinking is that I will order two burr sets. The Unimodal and the standard burr set, just in case I can’t get on with the Unimodal. I’ve pushed the boat out on this purchase and can’t justify to myself two SSP burr sets at this point. 

Is there a big difference between them? I mean BIG?

@profesor_historia The Unimodal are designed to produce a much tighter distribution of grinds size. That is not to say they won’t produce boulders and fines but they won’t produce as many as a traditional burr set. They were designed for brewing coffee but some people claim they produce a much sweeter cup when used with very light to light roasted beans for espresso. From what I have read they are very difficult to work with espresso extracting. They have the capability to produce god shots but also and from what I have read, very frequently, will produce sink shots. 

High Uniformity burrs are much more traditional espresso burrs. They produce the fines needed for a traditional espresso shot and it’s more traditional mouthfeel. That said the particle size distribution is a tighter band than most espresso burrs and therefore one hopes less likely to produce the bitterness interfering with the sweetness that light roasts can produce.

I think I have just talked myself back into ordering HU burrs 😂 

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Was really hoping to get some input from existing users of the Lagom P-64 in this thread. Tips and tricks of the trade would be very appreciated. 

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10 hours ago, Dallah said:

I think I have just talked myself back into ordering HU burrs 😂 

I don’t own a Lagom, but FWIW from everything I read it seems that SSP HU burrs are generally what’s recommended for espresso-focused consumers (as opposed to Unimodal / Low Fines / etc. If I were you I’d opt for HU only - rather than going for Unimodal + standard - but just my two cents. 

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Thanks for setting this thread up and for having it pinned. There is another thread previously started in the Coffee Lounge so hopefully people will move over to this now.

I’ve preordered for mid May and ended up going with High Uniformity in the Lagom (Black) and also added the Unimodal as a spare set. Everything I’ve read suggests I’ll prefer the HU burrs but thought it would be good to try both sets and report back in time.

Really looking forward to May 😁 

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@THR_Crema Both burr sets. I like your style. 

I just don’t know which way to go. I think as I can’t really make up my mind, I might opt not to decide and get both SSP burr sets. The Unimodal sound like they could produce some dramatically different espresso and while I’m not unhappy with my espresso as it is; something dramatically different sounds like a great experiment.

I know the folks at Option O think that this grinder with the Unimodal burrs and lightly roasted beans  can produce espresso similar to that which comes from a well aligned EK43. Is that necessarily a good thing?  Clarity of flavour but with limited mouthfeel. Sounds to me almost like a concentrated shot of filter coffee. 

So far I’ve no real decision. First World problems indeed. 

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50 minutes ago, shaunlawler said:

Is it easy enough to switch the burrs around?

@shaunlawler So far no present owners have chimed in on this thread. From videos online, it looks an easy enough process. Not something I would want to be doing everyday but if I were to change beans from very light to a medium roast, it sounds like a reasonable exercise. 

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4 minutes ago, Dallah said:

@THR_Crema Both burr sets. I like your style. 

I just don’t know which way to go. I think as I can’t really make up my mind, I might opt not to decide and get both SSP burr sets. The Unimodal sound like they could produce some dramatically different espresso and while I’m not unhappy with my espresso as it is; something dramatically different sounds like a great experiment.

I know the folks at Option O think that this grinder with the Unimodal burrs and lightly roasted beans  can produce espresso similar to that which comes from a well aligned EK43. Is that necessarily a good thing?  Clarity of flavour but with limited mouthfeel. Sounds to me almost like a concentrated shot of filter coffee. 

So far I’ve no real decision. First World problems indeed. 

As I couldn’t decide and this is part of a big upgrade and probably last time I’ll ever be able to have such an expensive grinder I thought it best to get both sets. I’m sure if I don’t like either set they will sell quickly.

I’ve got a Fellow Ode due in April for more Pourover coffee so quite tempted to try the SSP Unimodal burrs in this - from what I’ve been reading on home barista and believe Mr Hoffmann has also upgraded his to SSP burrs.

As you say they look straight forward to swap in a Lagom but not a daily exercise.

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57 minutes ago, shaunlawler said:

Is it easy enough to switch the burrs around?

From the few videos and reviews I’ve read - yes. It wouldn’t be a daily or weekly thing but to experiment it should be straight forward. My understanding is the grinder is permanently aligned regardless of swapping burrs. 

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7 minutes ago, KaffineNovice said:

Lagom P-64 order for myself as well, mid-may dispatch, gone for both burr types. I am trying to pretend it will not arrive till early June so I don't get too excited.

Amazing news on the order and both burr sets - seems most people are thinking the same when it comes to ordering both. 
 

I’m trying to do the same re delivery. Does anyone know if it’s air delivery or by sea? I’m sure it will be clear by May/June but wasn’t sure if the Suez Canal problem will have an impact.

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