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Greetings all,

I hope this message finds you all well.

I need to find a replacement for this part please.

Any help would be amazing!

https://spares2repair.co.uk/gastroback-solenoid-valve-for-espresso-machines-96283-solenoid-valve-complete-for-42612?gclid=Cj0KCQiAyoeCBhCTARIsAOfpKxjki1dteG8LyKHtBQCWDTq2KWDNEcrTLPM-AYFcWni8KCE-63mq1hUaAgvkEALw_wcB

I know it's available on this website but that seems extortionate.

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@Inza - Welcome. Doesn't look like a "standard' part to me, and that might be why the price is so high. Looks like you need to keep searching and see if you can find a better deal. 

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It seems to be quite difficult to find this anywhere else.

 

It's for a Sage Barista Express. The nozzle that one of the pipes attached to has broken.

 

 

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Looks like 2 solenoid valves attached to a plate (making a custom part) to me, depending on the fault, you might just be able to replace 1 valve, the coil, etc..

IO agree the price is ridiculous, but they don't really care if you fix it or not....probably prefer you not to fix it.

Nothing here...

 

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1 minute ago, El carajillo said:

Are there any part numbers on each valve ? you may be able to buy just one valve. As @Davec said looks like two on a plate

Hi

there are and I can get those but my issue is that the metal housing where the plastic pipes go into - the black nozzle that protrudes out of there has snapped.

I’d share an image but can’t do that directly from my phone or desktop.

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You can upload an image easy peasy, just use the choose files option in the editor.

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Nothing here...

 

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You'll probably find the snapped part screws into the solenoid. They are standard solenoids so should have a standard thread. You may be able to find similar but may have to be in brass and may be straight rather than angled.

Given the price of esspresso machine parts I find some of the comments amusing but yes having to buy the lot is tough. Price up fully stainless solenoids for other machines - may not even be able to find them.

I wondered if the part was available from here

https://outwestcoffee.com.au/index.php/product/breville-bes-860-70-valve-assembly/

There are a few similar sources in Australia.  A Breville parts site:au search may bring something up.

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2 minutes ago, DavecUK said:

You can upload an image easy peasy, just use the choose files option in the editor.

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Hi Dave,

 

Thanks a lot :)

Where can I locate the editor?

 

Cheers:)

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When you reply to a thread - click in the reply area, use choose file or drag and drop it

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Edit if needed is obtained by clicking on the 3 dots after you have posted.

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2 minutes ago, ajohn said:

When you reply to a thread - click in the reply are use choose file or drag and drop it

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I don't have that option. All I have is 'insert image from URL'.

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Wedge something in it, unscrew it...buy yourself a plastic or brass fitting  with the correct thread (probably m6) and screw it in with a bit of PTFE tape then fit the pipe to that fitting.

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That will screw out and will be a standard thread. Not sure if BSP or a metric equivalent. BSP seems to be the most widely used. Probably 1/8"

It's an annoying area. Sage do not make all of the parts and the bit you need will have been bought in so a high probability it's used some where else as well. Bean to cup machine or what ever. UK spares prices tend to be stupid. I found some one that listed the little wire clips that they use on the O ring seals. You wouldn't believe how much they wanted for just one.

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1 minute ago, ajohn said:

That will screw out and will be a standard thread. Not sure if BSP or a metric equivalent. BSP seems to be the most widely used. Probably 1/8"

It's an annoying area. Sage do not make all of the parts and the bit you need will have been bought in so a high probability it's used some where else as well. Bean to cup machine or what ever. UK spares prices tend to be stupid. I found some one that listed the little wire clips that they use on the O ring seals. You wouldn't believe how much they wanted for just one.

I've seen the small rubber rings going for almost a fiver!

They must think that all coffee drinkers are rich snobs lol

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4 minutes ago, DavecUK said:

Wedge something in it, unscrew it...buy yourself a plastic or brass fitting  with the correct thread (probably m6) and screw it in with a bit of PTFE tape then fit the pipe to that fitting.

Great advice.

It's done. Now I need to find something suitable to replace it with :)

 

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The O rings appear to be standard BS ones in silicone rubber. Sore point for me at the moment. I have some for measurement and some one wanted sizes. :( My wife appears to have tidied them away. When mentioned what's an O ring is the reply. When new they are a touch smaller than the ones removed. Fit oversized and that may break the plastic housings.

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14 minutes ago, DavecUK said:

Wedge something in it, unscrew it...buy yourself a plastic or brass fitting  with the correct thread (probably m6) and screw it in with a bit of PTFE tape then fit the pipe to that fitting.

Looks like an M8 from my measurements. Will check to see if I can get a nice replacement that's also a lot more durable :)

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you may find you need 1/16 bsp hose tail - adapter. 1/16 bsp is 7.72mm dia. It could also be a metric pipe thread. Personally I would doubt if it is just M whatever. The thread pitch should give you a clue. That BSP is 0.907mm M8 is 1.25mm. Measure several and divide.

 

Just add if it is a metric pipe thread it could be 8mm dia by 1mm pitch.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, ajohn said:

you may find you need 1/16 bsp hose tail - adapter. 1/16 bsp is 7.72mm dia. It could also be a metric pipe thread. Personally I would doubt if it is just M whatever. The thread pitch should give you a clue. That BSP is 0.907mm M8 is 1.25mm. Measure several and divide.

 

 

Thread pitch seems to be approx 1mm and diameter/width is approx 8mm.

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