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I found this was interesting: 

 

Must be some sort of change to manufacturing. 

Given the cost of replacing a grouphead, if this is a truly widespread problem in the 2019 models, a lot of people are going to upset once their groupheads start flaking. 

 

 

 

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Another fault in the MK3 GC's

Hardly surprising tbh. It seems to me they probably dug the old MK1 tooling up out of the skips after the move from the MK2 and have hired people who have no idea how to use them (relocated to China perhaps?).

Gaggia should bin off the GCP. Its a mess. Unfortunately, with the likes of coffee Jesus championing it, that it unlikely.

Frustrating. It could be so much better with not much more effort.

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Interesting- was just about to pull the trigger on the new GCP, but seeing this maybe a used (and older!) machine may be better a better call.

Indeed I think I (and many others) are drawn to this machine as a starting point due to all the good reviews so far - including from coffee “jesus” Hoffman :)

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I shouldn't really speculate but on the phone earlier I saw the flaking and thought nothing of it....just perhaps a bad batch of chroming. On the computer and closer examination it looks like they are "painting" the group heads with some silver finish, It doesn't look like flaking chrome as I would expect some nickel plating as a base for the chrome and cant see any.

Perhaps owners of earlier models can confirm whether it's chrome and later models whether it's painted. I had a Gaggia years ago and I'm pretty sure it was chromed and not painted? @MrShades Could probably shed some light on that.

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Nothing here...

 

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4 minutes ago, L&R said:

No Dave several already passed through my hands coating is not good on some series, this is the worse I have met

 

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Yiiiiiikkkees.

If it flakes like that, what can be done at that point other than sending it back? Some sort of heat-resistant spray paint? 

It's crazy that Gaggia can have almost no cases of flaking of that sort for 15+ years of production and then all of sudden BAM.

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5 minutes ago, phario said:

Yiiiiiikkkees.

If it flakes like that, what can be done at that point other than sending it back? Some sort of heat-resistant spray paint? 

It's crazy that Gaggia can have almost no cases of flaking of that sort for 15+ years of production and then all of sudden BAM.

Wow...even heat resistant silver paint would probably do better than that. Really quite shocked!

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Nothing here...

 

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25 minutes ago, L&R said:

No Dave several already passed through my hands coating is not good on some series, this is the worse I have met

 

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That looks....Odd to me.

The lines and flaws in the base casting are poor enough, but blueing on the sub surface? Brass doesn't blue under just kettle heat (does it?) And it don't look like a copper precoat either (brass-copper-chrome).

Also, the chrome is pealing, not just flaking?

I don't think it's poor QC more so an utter absence.

"Made in Italy" indeed.

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I just noticed my GCP group head has some paint peeling off similar to the picture in the reddit thread. However, I installed a PID and cut my stock spring, is there any point I reach out the store I bought it from? I'm worried about drinking metal flakes...

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Similar thing happening on my portafilter, the chrome hasn’t bonded to the underlying “primer” coat (normally copper for chrome electro plating”. I’ll be having a word with Gaggia about a replacement, currently using a 2003 portafilter from my old machine as I’ve no wish for a peeling flake of chrome to slice my hand open - I’ve had it before with badly plated hand tools and spilled blood accordingly.

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