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Many thanks to @Hairy_Hogg and @Daren for arranging this and giving us the opportunity to roast for such a fabulous group of enthusiasts. Congrats to @filthynines on guessing the correct origin a

OK - So the guesses have all dried up, time for a reveal. Daterra Full Bloom Origin: Brazil Process: Natural Altitude: 1100-1200m Harvest: May - August Flavour: Dried Apr

Tomorrow 👍

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27 minutes ago, siliconslave said:

Interesting your doing such a long extraction - might have to give that a go, been enjoying 18->36g in 35s on my maraX, but thats with a long pre-infusion.  Defiantly good a sweet :)

That was a one off long extraction as the beans from frozen took longer to get to my desired output weight compared to non frozen beans.

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Been having these as V60 last few days. Not quite got to grips with them yet...

First one (2:0 on Feld) stalled (which maybe indicative of something to someone who knows more than me!) but it still tasted a little flat so I went a tad finer with the next one (1:12 on Feld) but that was a little bitter so this morning I went the other way and loosened the grind to 2:2! Better but still room for improvement.

The V60 method I use invariably finishes between 2.33 and 2.44 but even with a looser grind these beans are taking at least 3 minutes which could suggest an Ethiopian but I'm not really getting any Ethiopian taste from them... more South American to me, maybe Colombian but give me a couple more brews to decide! :D Also think it's a washed process.

I have a hunch these guys might be at their best through the espresso machine after a good rest.

As ever thanks to @Hairy_Hogg and @Daren for organising. 👍

 

 

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5 hours ago, Kman10 said:

Fingers crossed today is delivery day, anybody else still waiting?

Mrs D has actually just picked mine up from the lost world that is the local sorting office.

They arrived sometime over the weekend - the date on the card was unreadable (which is
a) tricky for dd/mm or dd/mm/yyyy
b) only important if you need the info for some reason (see below))

She had attempted to pick them up Monday but the Collection place was closed (altered hours due to Covid (Altered apparently but not publicised as the website still advertises "normal" times))

She had then tried to pick them up yesterday but was too busy

So today she decided to just arrange a redelivery, to avoid complications...
However after filling in her life history in the online form (after previously giving up on attempting to use the publicised phone line) she was presented with a field : Original Delivery date.... which as mentioned above... was unreadable and after entering her best guess.. her life story was basically deleted and she was expected to fill it all in again (to try a new date)...

She basically said "Sod it" and went to the collection office again - which remarkably was actually open...

Oh well - All's well that ends well (and lets face it it wasn't me that had the run around all week ;-) )  

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On 08/09/2020 at 15:45, Hairy_Hogg said:

I had a lovely espresso of these straight from the freezer - I had some beans left from the LSOL roast sample, really long extraction (50s on my sage) but super sweet and tasty.

V60's are coming in at around 3.20 - cannot comment on tasting notes.

Ice coffee made from these really is good as well - try the Workshop or Hoffman method.

I just tried first espresso. Possibly a bit early (think black cat said 2 weeks peak?), but had to try! 

15:33 on the MaraX at setting 11 on the Niche came through at 45 seconds. Little long, but actually tasted great... Can see how you got a decent long extraction. 

No idea about tasting notes because I suck at picking them out in espresso, but is was balanced, but of sweetness, some acitity (thought it was tomato ish but think that's because I need to tweak the recipe!). V60 was a bit more berries or something for me I think, so espresso came through a little differently... 

More tweaking required 😊 but I still think Africa... 

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Tomato is an interesting one! I am sure someone said bacon in a previous LSOL. I just need to find some coffee with notes of lettuce and I have a cracking blend in mind 😁

Although I think my favourite tasting note is the one James Hoffman mentioned in a video - late stage Marlon Brando. That is the tasting note I aspire to now.

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Just tried my first cup from the Clever Dripper of these and like it.

 

It’s definitely got a bit of funk going on in there somewhere for me so possibly had some sort of anaerobic/fermentation process involved?

 

First impression are Central American anaerobic processed.

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35 minutes ago, BlackCatCoffee said:

Tomato is an interesting one! I am sure someone said bacon in a previous LSOL. I just need to find some coffee with notes of lettuce and I have a cracking blend in mind 😁

Although I think my favourite tasting note is the one James Hoffman mentioned in a video - late stage Marlon Brando. That is the tasting note I aspire to now.

Yeah can't say I got bacon in any previous ones, but if you ever make a BLT blend I'll give it a try 😉 

Probably wasn't really tomato, just the sweetness and acidity merging together and me being crap at espresso tasting notes! 

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1 minute ago, jaffro said:

Yeah can't say I got bacon in any previous ones, but if you ever make a BLT blend I'll give it a try 😉 

Probably wasn't really tomato, just the sweetness and acidity merging together and me being crap at espresso tasting notes! 

I am not going to pass on my own thoughts on this one but I can understand how someone might pick tomato out from a coffee. As you say - sweet and acidity with some fruity edge, totally get how that brings you to tomato. Not sure I have personally encountered bacon in a coffee but I have heard all sorts in cupping sessions.

I find it absolutely fascinating how peoples palates vary. I am really enjoying seeing all the guesses and thoughts on here so far!

If I ever make a BLT blend you'll be the first to know 🤣

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1 hour ago, hotmetal said:

Kenya sometimes has a tomato soup vibe.

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Definitely. Think I've told this anecdote before but last year at a local roaster bags of what I knew to be a very nice Kenyan were sitting on the shelves...one of the staff remarked that using tomato as a tasting note was a mistake.

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Hahaha! Yeah, it intrigued me when I first heard it. I'm generally up for trying stuff. Probably not on most people's preference list though. Hopefully that enabled you to grab a couple of keys at a good price?

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Ooohhhh yes this has the savoury funk big time.... I would depart from the usual Kenyan tomato vibe and be as bold as to say Knorr vegetable stock cube. Looking forward to getting to the office now and hitting the Clever dripper with this one.

 

Thanks all as always.

 

 

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Just opened the bag and tried a quick espresso.

Much slower than the suggested recipe on the bag.
15 sec pi at 5 bar 15.5- 32gm in .....65secs!
No bitterness, surprisingly not too “coffee”
But obviously non of the Subtleties i was hoping for.
Pleasant caramel/ choc.
Tomorrow i grind much coarser and see if i can get closer to the recommend recipe and what i covered up.


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Any tips on areopress I am struggling with this using my feltgirnd starting at my usual 1.6 14g into full inverted 30sec bloom fill up 45sec flip and press I have been gradually grinder courser but not getting much luck

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I’ve lost my espresso capability for
Now and only have Chemex Or Kalita.
Grind and extraction time all good.
I get the veg stock on the nose, but not in the cup. Generally struggling for much more in the cup other than a pleasant and smooth coffee.

Caveat here is I’m also only on slightly softened water from my quooker and not nicely filtered mg enhanced until my treatment is plumbed. My water isn’t the best so maybe it’s being hampered.


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