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I’m a bit out of date these days, though does anyone know if there’s a real alternative to the Niche with flat burrs for around the same price?

 

Anything now or news of products coming up?

 

I mean a proper single doser designed from the ground up - not some hopper machine with a blower attached etc.

 

Asking a lot I know though thought I’d check.

 

 

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No, Nothing can beat the Niche price level Ceado have some new, but price starts just below 1000 Uk£ https://www.ceado.com/en/product/89.html

Wait a while. There will be some new models on the market towards the end of this year that tick all your boxes.

https://home-doserless.com/product/mazzer-major/ About height I am not absolutely sure but Major without hopper is 42 cm or so. One pic staying next to Classic for reference

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Ah sorry, I should have added - ‘for espresso’


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Major + this kit = 400GBP = great for espresso!
 

This looks interesting - do you know how tall a major would be like this and where do I get the kit?


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6 hours ago, kennyboy993 said:

Ah sorry, I should have added - ‘for espresso’


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The uniform is supposed to do espresso.

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15 minutes ago, Rob1 said:

The uniform is supposed to do espresso.

It can be done, but it's not designed to really be an espresso grinder and lacks fine adjustment (41 steps altogether from espresso-fine to very coarse)

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Thanks pal will take a look


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There’s a Mazzer Royal in the FS section just gone in.... not sure if the same mod applies to the Royal too. [emoji106]
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What I want to know is what makes any flat burr grinder good or bad at single dosing? 
Retention? 
Surely it’s not popcorning as they niche does this. 
Do larger burrs help? 

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28 minutes ago, TomHughes said:

What I want to know is what makes any flat burr grinder good or bad at single dosing? 
Retention? 
Surely it’s not popcorning as they niche does this. 
Do larger burrs help? 

Some have a more tortuous grind path where grinds can collect, otherwise there's no difference.

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9 minutes ago, MWJB said:

Some have a more tortuous grind path where grinds can collect, otherwise there's no difference.

Excellent, my DIY flat burr 45 deg grinder made from an old La Pavoni (Obel) has a mod to the chute and silicon blades on the burr carrier so retention is pretty much zero. 

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There’s a Mazzer Royal in the FS section just gone in.... not sure if the same mod applies to the Royal too. [emoji106]

Cool cheers - what’s the difference between Royal and Major?


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@kennyboy993 - Think both have 83mm burrs, Major uses the less aggressive ones whilst the Royal has the other types since it’s motor is beefier.

Major is 38cm tall no hopper, Royal is ~46cm so a fair bit bigger and weighs ~60lbs 😢

If you have space for a Royal then I reckon you would have room for an EK43s potentially...

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Rpm mainly in home use 990(Royal) vs 1440(Major)

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On 10/07/2020 at 23:21, kennyboy993 said:

I’m a bit out of date these days, though does anyone know if there’s a real alternative to the Niche with flat burrs for around the same price?

Anything now or news of products coming up?

No, Nothing can beat the Niche price level

Ceado have some new, but price starts just below 1000 Uk£
https://www.ceado.com/en/product/89.html
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@JackHK - And I thought the Niche was divisive in terms of looks... For a grand I wouldn’t be expecting an adjustment ring that looked like it would normally be found on a jar of instant! 😂

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@coffeechap - The Santos looks pretty good actually for the money, do you know if still has the mini auger like the previous model did?

Think @grumpydaddy had a modded stepped older one a while back.

 

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5 hours ago, Northern_Monkey said:

@JackHK - And I thought the Niche was divisive in terms of looks... For a grand I wouldn’t be expecting an adjustment ring that looked like it would normally be found on a jar of instant! 😂

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@coffeechap - The Santos looks pretty good actually for the money, do you know if still has the mini auger like the previous model did?

Think @grumpydaddy had a modded stepped older one a while back.

 

It’s really good actually, for a small grinder, zero retention is achieved quite easily, plus I like the cut of the santos burrs 

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Santos barista is really nice 

More than double price of a niche though eh. Looks nice mind


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