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So I had been making what I found very nice coffees on a delonghi machine for the past 6 months, unfortunately it's broken for the second time and will not be being replaced. I have received a refund and am looking to get something nice and reliable. 

I have been reading some posts about the classic on this forum and have been looking online for one however I'm a bit confused by different model numbers, years and prices.

Is there a significant difference in model number and year and how much should I be paying for a new one (seem to go from just over £200 -£400 for the same model). Also are there any online retailers people would particularly recommend?

Any thoughts much appreciated.

 

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Hi, there are basically 3 different models to separate them:  pre 2015 made in Italy, 2015-2018 made in China and those are one to avoid, than 2019 model called also a Pro which is build in Italy and has all the futures that classic is known for plus probably better quality overall. I don’t know the model numbers but you can google it and plenty of info, best way to differentiate them is by the look of the front panel and the 3 buttons on it. Price wise when new the Chinese version is around £200 and the Italian 2019 Pro is around £400. 

Gaggia classic is really great machine but I can recommend you to look at Sage Duo Temp Pro as a straight forward competitor, plus if you get it on offer you can buy and grinder as well all in £400 or less , perfect for starter kit. 

Regards 

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Hi, there are basically 3 different models to separate them:  pre 2015 made in Italy, 2015-2018 made in China and those are one to avoid, than 2019 model called also a Pro which is build in Italy and has all the futures that classic is known for plus probably better quality overall. I don’t know the model numbers but you can google it and plenty of info, best way to differentiate them is by the look of the front panel and the 3 buttons on it. Price wise when new the Chinese version is around £200 and the Italian 2019 Pro is around £400. 

Gaggia classic is really great machine but I can recommend you to look at Sage Duo Temp Pro as a straight forward competitor, plus if you get it on offer you can buy and grinder as well all in £400 or less , perfect for starter kit. 

Regards 

You missed out the Romanian built pre-2015 model.

The new 2019 version also seems to have the (plastic) OPV evacuating to the driptray instead of back to the tank on some of them for some inexplicable reason.

 

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Laissez les bons temps rouler

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Yes, a good point I have missed that, thank you for correcting. Romanian model pre 2015. So comes to 4 main models and now only two variants available to buy as new : £200 made in China and £400 Pro version made in Italy. 

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Out of the box, the machines aren't great.

They are set at 15bar pressure, which works with supermarket coffee/pods/pressurized baskets, but most on here prefer to brew at a lower pressure.

Also, the boiler temperature is unstable.  A lot of people here fit a kit to regulate at 93 degrees for coffee and 135 for steam.

The steam wand is dreadful, the tamper is useless and the filter basket is poor.

 

Good news is, you can often buy a used model for about £200-£300, modded to 9 bar pressure, with an upgraded steam wand and a temperature kit included.

 

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AHH thank you, that clears things up. 

Just looking at the duo pro - I will do some reading on the subject.

 

Much appreciated all!

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On 09/08/2019 at 16:09, ashcroc said:

You missed out the Romanian built pre-2015 model.

The new 2019 version also seems to have the (plastic) OPV evacuating to the driptray instead of back to the tank on some of them for some inexplicable reason.

 

My OPV doesnt do this but i believe i have an earlier varient of the classic pro. my opv goes into the water tank (i have two pipes in it)

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On 09/08/2019 at 15:57, Tonino said:

Hi, there are basically 3 different models to separate them:  pre 2015 made in Italy, 2015-2018 made in China and those are one to avoid, than 2019 model called also a Pro which is build in Italy and has all the futures that classic is known for plus probably better quality overall. I don’t know the model numbers but you can google it and plenty of info, best way to differentiate them is by the look of the front panel and the 3 buttons on it. Price wise when new the Chinese version is around £200 and the Italian 2019 Pro is around £400. 

Gaggia classic is really great machine but I can recommend you to look at Sage Duo Temp Pro as a straight forward competitor, plus if you get it on offer you can buy and grinder as well all in £400 or less , perfect for starter kit. 

Regards 

Could I just ask -is the Chinese model inferior in the coffee it makes or less reliable (or both)?

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Could I just ask -is the Chinese model inferior in the coffee it makes or less reliable (or both)?
The 2015-18 model was a bit of a hash to pass EU regulations where they basically threw a Gaggia Pure into a Classic case. Outside the EU the pre-2015 model continued to be sold.

Laissez les bons temps rouler

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It's still a great machine for your first venture into coffee brewing. 

Have one for the last four or so years and really loved it. Just upgraded but still have it.

Temp of coffee not really great but good enough. Could froth for milk drinks..again not great but sufficient. For the price, a great starter. No regrets here.


Gaggia Classic, Rocket Appartamento, Compak K3 Touch.

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