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I have now had chance to test both Nozzles kindly supplied by Nick's Nozzles. Just for clarity I would like it be known I almost paid full price for them and have no affiliation to the company. I

They are currently undergoing testing at various locations around the globe . Well Austria , Oxford and Lincolnshire ?.  Not sure how seriously in Lincolnshire though ??

Getting the knack now Less milk and got it really swirling - surprised me a bit tonight!

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18 minutes ago, MediumRoastSteam said:

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I often wondered if the offender ever worked out what it was for... ?.. I am going to have a go at a Mk2 as we discussed in the next week ....

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A question for the scientific minds among the community or if you are just bored ..

Is a one hole steam tip for a La Pavoni little lever just a drilled and threaded piece of shiny brass to stick on the end of the steam wand or is there more to it ?

Does the size of the single hole matter .. research on HB seem to say 1.4mm was the best . Many sold on eBay etc have a 1.5mm hole . Does 0.1 mm make a difference .

One I made with a 1.4mm hole performs better on a Professional LP than the Europiccola... I am waiting for scientific evidence from  the user re this . Another one the user has is shorter with a 1.5mm hole which is better on the smaller machine .. The user who is my research and development department is busy leading a normal life .. 

So could the length be important ? Could a slightly longer gap between the end of the wand and where the hole starts be causing a disruption to the flow . Could the length of the 1.4mm hole have an impact ? The  mind boggles .

Any answers serious or not welcome .

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7 minutes ago, Nicknak said:

Any answers serious or not welcome .

Is this, 'any answers, serious or not, welcome'

Or

'any answers serious, or not welcome'

Or

'any. Answers serious or not welcome'

I just need to know for sure before discussing if length matters ?

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1 minute ago, MildredM said:

Is this, 'any answers, serious or not, welcome'

Or

'any answers serious, or not welcome'

Or

'any. Answers serious or not welcome'

I just need to know for sure before discussing if length matters ?

@MildredM if you have nothing serious or scientific to offer .... fill your boots ?

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8 minutes ago, Nicknak said:

@MildredM if you have nothing serious or scientific to offer .... fill your boots ?

My boots are already filled, thank you very much, now address yourself to my question ?

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11 minutes ago, MildredM said:

My boots are already filled, thank you very much, now address yourself to my question ?

You need to phrase it better ,they all look the same to me.. Now , if you ever decide to take your latte art to a better level and upgrade your La Pavoni serious answers only .. If not , you can comment in any way you wish ???

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Hmmm maybe I will be able to comment if ever I get my hands on o e of your brass tips . . . . 

I can see this thread going downhill fast ?

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Ok. I’m revealing.... I’m the one Nick refers to. [emoji23] I can see this going downhill really quickly. Given the terms used: length, performance, tips, width....

Let’s try and keep it focused. I’ll give some more background shortly.


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A question for the scientific minds among the community or if you are just bored ..

Is a one hole steam tip for a La Pavoni little lever just a drilled and threaded piece of shiny brass to stick on the end of the steam wand or is there more to it ?

Does the size of the single hole matter .. research on HB seem to say 1.4mm was the best . Many sold on eBay etc have a 1.5mm hole . Does 0.1 mm make a difference .

One I made with a 1.4mm hole performs better on a Professional LP than the Europiccola... I am waiting for scientific evidence from  the user re this . Another one the user has is shorter with a 1.5mm hole which is better on the smaller machine .. The user who is my research and development department is busy leading a normal life .. 

So could the length be important ? Could a slightly longer gap between the end of the wand and where the hole starts be causing a disruption to the flow . Could the length of the 1.4mm hole have an impact ? The  mind boggles .

Any answers serious or not welcome .

You forgot to ask about the exit angle of the hole. Also, have you considered rifling? [emoji6]

 

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Ok. I’ll do my best here to keep this on focus.

I have two steam tips [emoji2960]. One with a 1.5mm hole (A) and another one with a 1.4mm hole (B). The former is shorter.

They both are similar - almost identical - in construction and overall shape.

(A) performs really well with the europiccola, taking longer to steam than B and producing a nicer microfoam. B tends to take less time and the foam it makes is thicker and the steam seems to splutter more.

On the Pro, B performs really well and the results as great.

The pressure on both machines are set to 0.85 bar.

My brain tells me that the smaller hole should take longer to steam, but the exact opposite is happening, leaving me to think that length must have something to do with it.

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33 minutes ago, MediumRoastSteam said:

Ok. I’ll do my best here to keep this on focus.

I have two steam tips emoji2960.png. One with a 1.5mm hole (A) and another one with a 1.4mm hole (B). The former is shorter.

They both are similar - almost identical - in construction and overall shape.

(A) performs really well with the europiccola, taking longer to steam than B and producing a nicer microfoam. B tends to take less time and the foam it makes is thicker and the steam seems to splutter more.

On the Pro, B performs really well and the results as great.

The pressure on both machines are set to 0.85 bar.

My brain tells me that the smaller hole should take longer to steam, but the exact opposite is happening, leaving me to think that length must have something to do with it.

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So if your up for the challenge ,  a shorter 1.4mm  and a longer 1.5mm might give the answer ? 

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So if your up for the challenge ,  a shorter 1.4mm  and a longer 1.5mm might give the answer ? 


I think so. But a shorter 1.4mm could also give me the answer. Also notice the shape of the shorter one: it’s slight cone shaped near the hole. (Sorry for the lack of technical words, english is not my first language).
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maybe the answer is somewhere at steam arm - are they identical?
 
(English ain't MY first language dude, that spot's already taken!)


Yes. I swapped the tip on the same steam arm on the piccola.


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1 minute ago, Hasi said:

maybe the answer is somewhere at steam arm - are they identical?

I think so .. It maybe if the steam is used right after making a drink , the Pro has more capacity  of steam pressure to force through the smaller hole . Whereas the smaller machine runs out of puff ,therefore the spluttering .. All conjecture of course .

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