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The first europiccola 1958 ?

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Interesting article in the 'news' section of Francesco's great site, It features a pre pavoni type Euro a full 3 years before Pavoni put out their first machine.

 

This one was made by Bezzera

 

http://www.francescoceccarelli.eu/Macchine/Bezzera/baby_bezzera/baby_bezzera_eng.htm


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No sightglass to break!

 

Or to tell you when you run out of water and burn the element out

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Or to tell you when you run out of water and burn the element out
Swings & roundabouts.

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Just to add to the confusion on the origin of the Europiccola  - ive been looking at info on other forums - one theory is that it was designed by Piero Diamante of DP fame - certainly he had one of the first machines out in 58 and patented the design in 59.

DP made elements for other manufacturers and seem to have possibly franchised the design to Bezzera and Co-Fer before selling it to Pavoni in 61

Piero Diamante name is on the design patent   in 1959

here is the DP version (images from various web sources (inc home barista}

 

                                                       

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Confusion is good

 


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Just now, coffeechap said:

Confusion is good

 

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19 minutes ago, MildredM said:

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Exactly !

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7 minutes ago, coffeechap said:

Exactly !

I dont know... I think you look younger?

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11 minutes ago, coffeechap said:

Exactly !

You had a makeover as well 

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You lot are so observant 

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2 hours ago, jimbojohn55 said:

Just to add to the confusion on the origin of the Europiccola  - ive been looking at info on other forums - one theory is that it was designed by Piero Diamante of DP fame - certainly he had one of the first machines out in 58 and patented the design in 59.

DP made elements for other manufacturers and seem to have possibly franchised the design to Bezzera and Co-Fer before selling it to Pavoni in 61

Piero Diamante name is on the design patent   in 1959

here is the DP version (images from various web sources (inc home barista}

 

                                                       

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Francesco site has more detailed info here http://www.francescoceccarelli.eu/m_dp.htm

The patent was for a styling of the machine not for the original design, so as Francesco puts it - some other artisan did it -----but who ? I think someone should be credited for it 

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Ok so following 10 minutes of further dedicated research I reckon Nea Lux did it...… well that is what others hint at, and it seams likely as they made machines not elements and they had one out as well in 1958.

In the early 50's they were making these *(as below) and so you can imagine that they had the skills to design and make the original next to it - if anyone says different their lying...…..sticks fingers in ears

 

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I like the fact that there are many variations of the original, however only one company got a grip and started mass producing them successfully 

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28 minutes ago, coffeechap said:

I like the fact that there are many variations of the original, however only one company got a grip and started mass producing them successfully 

Gaggia after putting the tin hat on?


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5 minutes ago, ashcroc said:

Gaggia after putting the tin hat on?

Pavoni made them for Gaggia and still use the same parts for the romantica range

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apartently untill Pavoni became involved only a couple of hundred were sold, then boom 1100 in 61-62

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Must've been some ad campaign!

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1 hour ago, ashcroc said:

Must've been some ad campaign!

Or just gullible Italians, it was not long before Pavoni had the forethought to add the glass tube, this stopping the elements from going

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