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Hi all,

 

I went to a Gaggia outlet yesterday so I could have a nose about. I have always shown an interest in the classic but the lady in the shop made me an espresso using the Brera and I found it rather nice.

 

I’m now a little confused what to do as I had every intention on getting a classic or a Silvia and a half decent grinder but this has now thrown a spanner into the works due to its simplicity and cost.

 

ideally I’d want to buy new and both machines are roughly the same price, obviously if I went for a classic then I’d need to get a grinder.

 

Can anyone recommend the brera? And would the quality of the shot be much different from the classic? I know there are several factors that contribute to this but if we we talking using the same beans would I see much of a difference?

 

Id like to add that I’m a bit of a coffee newb. I have a basic delonghi machine that produces shots that taste like they’ve been made through a sock. I’m not looking to be a barista, just want a decent espresso each day at a reasonable price.

 

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With the Brera, you get exactly what the machine is set up to do. You can't customise the pressure, temperature, shot length (although you can cut it short) - none of this whatsoever. The Classic will let you do all of these.

 

If you're looking for a B2C machine, Davecuk recommended the Melitta Cafeo Varianza here, but ultimately, it depends what you're looking for.

 

My dad has a Brera, and I have to admit I'm not a huge fan -- it seemed to overextract the few beans I put through it (and no grinder adjustment helped it), and the shots were kinda... plain. Ultimately, it depends to what lengths you'll go for a good cup of coffee.

 

Do you plan to make milk drinks? I'm extremely unimpressed with the steam pressure on the Brera.


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Thanks for the recommendation.

 

All im really after is a decent double espresso each morning and the occasional latte/flat white when I fancy it.

 

Ive always disregarded a b2c machine but I guess all I’m after is a half decent espresso without a faff. However, I like the idea of having the flexibility of a manual machine like the classic.

 

Theres so much out there it all gets a bit confusing!

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Thanks for the recommendation.

 

All im really after is a decent double espresso each morning and the occasional latte/flat white when I fancy it.

 

Ive always disregarded a b2c machine but I guess all I’m after is a half decent espresso without a faff. However, I like the idea of having the flexibility of a manual machine like the classic.

 

Theres so much out there it all gets a bit confusing!

 

I'd consider a Classic in that instance, one of the older models -- it'll get you started on a budget, though you will also need a good grinder on top.

 

What's your budget?


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To be fair I was pretty much set on a Rancilio Silvia/Gaggia Classic with a mignon grinder but then the whole bean to cup option come up and it’s confused me.

 

Ive always been a bit put off buying second hand but if something come along at a decent price that’s been looked after then I’d go for it.

 

i was looking at Bella Barista Silvia and mignon combos but they were about £700 but that’s a bit out of my price range I guess.

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To be fair I was pretty much set on a Rancilio Silvia/Gaggia Classic with a mignon grinder but then the whole bean to cup option come up and it’s confused me.

 

Ive always been a bit put off buying second hand but if something come along at a decent price that’s been looked after then I’d go for it.

 

i was looking at Bella Barista Silvia and mignon combos but they were about £700 but that’s a bit out of my price range I guess.

 

I wouldn't be too worried about buying second-hand, especially if doing so on here. There's a Fracino Cherub up for £350 on here at present, and a Mazzer Major grinder for £250, putting you at £600. The grinder would need a bit of work for home modding, but could get you started, at least.

 

I had a Mignon until recently and found it a very capable starter grinder. If your preference is to avoid faffing around and just get a drinkable espresso shot, you absolutely can stick to a bean to cup machine -- many of us on here like to fiddle and faff about with new kit, and many like to experiment. You can only really do that with a 'traditional' espresso machine.


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With the automatic machine you are limited in the type of beans you can put in... No dark or flavored beans...

I like the simplicity but I have a taste for dark bean coffee so not an opinion for me...

 

For those of you who have a Brera how easy is it cleaning it?... Any particular part that is a problem or fails?

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With the automatic machine you are limited in the type of beans you can put in... No dark or flavored beans...

I like the simplicity but I have a taste for dark bean coffee so not an opinion for me...

 

For those of you who have a Brera how easy is it cleaning it?... Any particular part that is a problem or fails?

 

Cleaning the brew group is as simple as pulling it out, running under hot water, wiping it clean, and greasing the seals.


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Thanks for that info.

 

Im definitely not a tinkerer and not interested in modding in the slightest really. Like I say, a decent espresso is what I’m after.

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If you don't want to tinker then you're probably best off looking elsewhere from a Classic or Silvia. Both suffer from temperature stability issues from their mechanical stats & really benefit from having a PID fitted.


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