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Hi

 

Bought this from forum member dripdrop around Christmas and just haven't had the use out of it that I expected. It's in great nick (I understand dripdrop bought it from someone on here who had owned it from new) and has only been used a handful of times since I bought it. The wife is demanding the counter top space back as it's not being used much!

 

This is a perfect beginner machine as it's so consistent, and would also work in a high usage scenario like an office.

 

I've used Brita filtered water and descaled/cleaned it as I've used it.

 

I'm not looking to sell it for any more than I bought it for (it was a bargain!), So asking for £300 for the machine and portafilter

 

£350 for machine and all accessories, which includes:

5 le creuset espresso mugs (one broke as I was tidying up after photos ! )

2 loveramics flat white mugs

2 loveramics latte mugs

2 misc cappa mugs

Metal tamper

Small milk jug

Milk thermometer

Tamping mat

Knock box

Blanking plate for cleaning

Cleaning fluid and milk cleaning fluid

 

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Would you consider sending this by courier, or it collection only?

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I'm interested in this and I'm close enough to collect but I have a few questions.

 

Would it be an upgrade over my Sage DTP?

Does it heat up fast and how is the water filled? I have a cupboard above my machine so pouring in from the top wouldn't be easy.

Does it have any kind of temperature control? I don't like the idea of temperature surfing, not sure if that is a thing with HX machines.

 

Thanks

Nick


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If you end up in a situation where you're interested in splitting, I'd be interested in the cups (latte, cappucino, flat white).


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Would you consider sending this by courier, or it collection only?

 

The machine is seriously heavy. Surprisingly so! And physically big too (more so than it looks in pics) I will fall back to courier if necessary but would prefer a face to face sale (and promise to help you lift it to your car!)

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I'm interested in this and I'm close enough to collect but I have a few questions.

 

Would it be an upgrade over my Sage DTP?

Does it heat up fast and how is the water filled? I have a cupboard above my machine so pouring in from the top wouldn't be easy.

Does it have any kind of temperature control? I don't like the idea of temperature surfing, not sure if that is a thing with HX machines.

 

Thanks

Nick

 

I think it would be a big upgrade over a DTP. It’s a totally different class of machine. I can’t speak for the technicals but fracino have details on the website https://www.fracino.com/cherub.html

It’s rated as a prosumer machine for 50 cups a day, and has a 2.3L HX boiler.

 

It’s possible to steam milk and make espresso at the same time, if that speaks enough to temp consistency.

 

For one cup it has always been hot enough shortly after it has been powered up. Maybe ten to fifteen minutes? I pair mine with a tp link smart plug which works brilliantly for timer and switching on whilst still lying in bed!

 

I have the same issue with height under cupboard. I found the small milk jug I have will snake under the cupboard for filling. 3L according to the website.

 

Would you be interested in the accessories too or just the machine?

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If you end up in a situation where you're interested in splitting, I'd be interested in the cups (latte, cappucino, flat white).

 

Thanks I’ll bear that in mind. I’ll have to find out what happens with the machine first and let you know.

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I think it would be a big upgrade over a DTP. It’s a totally different class of machine. I can’t speak for the technicals but fracino have details on the website https://www.fracino.com/cherub.html

It’s rated as a prosumer machine for 50 cups a day, and has a 2.3L HX boiler.

 

It’s possible to steam milk and make espresso at the same time, if that speaks enough to temp consistency.

 

For one cup it has always been hot enough shortly after it has been powered up. Maybe ten to fifteen minutes? I pair mine with a tp link smart plug which works brilliantly for timer and switching on whilst still lying in bed!

 

I have the same issue with height under cupboard. I found the small milk jug I have will snake under the cupboard for filling. 3L according to the website.

 

Would you be interested in the accessories too or just the machine?

 

Do you have to pour the water into the top of the machine? I have just over 45cm height clearance.

 

I wouldn't really need the cups, I already have a few.


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Do you have to pour the water into the top of the machine? I have just over 45cm height clearance.

 

I wouldn't really need the cups, I already have a few.

 

It’s top filled, yes. The website claims its 380mm tall.

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I'm interested in this and I'm close enough to collect but I have a few questions.

 

Would it be an upgrade over my Sage DTP?

Does it heat up fast and how is the water filled? I have a cupboard above my machine so pouring in from the top wouldn't be easy.

Does it have any kind of temperature control? I don't like the idea of temperature surfing, not sure if that is a thing with HX machines.

 

Thanks

Nick

 

Massive upgrade. I did the exact same move. Seriously impressed with my Cherub. Long gone now but still. Top fill and not terribly easy to move due to weight and rubber feet. Try and make it work tho, you won't regret it.

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Any interest in this, Nick1881?

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Sorry, I'm going to leave it. Feel like I need a better grinder first and I've got my eyes set on a Niche Zero.

 

Thanks


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Ok thanks for getting back to me. For information I’m using a sage smart grinder and it works great.

 

Everything still for sale, I think this is really a cracking price for this machine. Hopefully someone is looking for an upgrade?

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Not sure what the rules are on bumping threads , but gonna bump and hope for the best!

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Would this be a step up from a Rancilio Silvia? Can you confirm height from the bottom to the top of the rail guard? Also, is the rail removable? If so, can you confirm the height with it removed?

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Would this be a step up from a Rancilio Silvia? Can you confirm height from the bottom to the top of the rail guard? Also, is the rail removable? If so, can you confirm the height with it removed?

 

Yes, a big upgrade from a Silvia. This is a HX machine which means simultaneous steam and coffee, more consistent temps and less waiting between shots. It’s almost famous for having a ridiculously huge group head for a single group machine.

 

It’s 36cm to the top of the rail guard, which is removable. 31cm to top of the machine without rail guard.

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Would you take £350 posted for the set? Not interested in the crockery but mainly the portafilters, tamper etc.

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£350 for everything except the crockery? I have another poster asking about the cups so would split if you were happy with that.

 

My only concern is the weight. It’s around 18kg plus if you want the cleaning stuff they’ll be heavy to post. Parcelforce claim to deliver for £12 but I’ll believe it when I see it!

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£350 for everything except the crockery? I have another poster asking about the cups so would split if you were happy with that.

 

My only concern is the weight. It’s around 18kg plus if you want the cleaning stuff they’ll be heavy to post. Parcelforce claim to deliver for £12 but I’ll believe it when I see it!

 

Bet you £12 is covered up to £20.


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I am sure we will agree on something! Ok to go to PMs?

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I am sure we will agree on something! Ok to go to PMs?

 

Sure thing.

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Hi mods. I'm afraid we have a dispute.

 

FilipK and I agreed a price of £320 + delivery (a further £20) for the machine and a couple of accessories. I boxed these up and posted them to him via Parcelforce, insured.

 

I had owned the machine for five months and made something like 30-50 coffees in the period, with only Brita filtered water and regular cleaning/descaling. The machine had always worked to my needs and had done since I had bought it from the forums.

 

On arrival, FilipK feels the machine is in need of a service. He thinks the pressure is too low and there may be a broken seal between the group head and the machine. He's understandably frustrated, although I also feel the machine was sold in good faith. I don't know if the issues are from transit, or had always been there, because I'm not an expert. The machine made good coffee and frothed milk well.

 

Guidance on how to proceed would be appreciated from both parties!

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Unfortunately things can and do go wrong during transportation, what was agreed between you and the seller, I.E. was postage at the buyers risk? Or did you agree to posting with insurance? Unfortunately unless there were obvious signs of damage to the box, you will not get a jot out of the insurance, so it is down to who accepted the responsibility.


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Maybe @Rhys can offer some advice?


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I've followed the dispute guidelines in the main post and reported my post, so hopefully a mod will be along soon to help.

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