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I was a memeber of this forum a good few years ago and quit after continued corrupt moderation. At the time the mods that were guilty were a new wave of mods and might have been keen to impress Glenn so I gave it time. But my posts (and othe members) that were apparently braking forum rules would be pulled up or deleted. Others doing the same got away with it because they had been members for years while I had only been around a year or so.. After several complaints to Glenn and nothing done I’d finally had enough and changed my password to something random, signed out knowing I didn’t know the password and never came back..

 

Finally upgraditis got the better of me and I set up this new account to see what was around.. Within hours of rejoining I came across a new ish member having similar issues to what I’d had. Coincidence?

 

fast forward to last night and I make a genuine mistake with a forum sale rule. I still don’t agree with it along with a few others. I had members telling me what I should do when it was nothing to do with them and not their item being sold. Glenn finally arrived to moderate and at first had the same opinion as me and a few others. Then when he was questioned changed his mind to the ‘majority vote’ no surprise there...

 

Then...... Tonight I have a look in the For Sale section and someone has blatantly broke forum rules and not by accident, a mod has moved the item to sold so seen the same as I have seen and nothing said or done..

 

as the lyrics go from a song of one of my favourite bands:

 

Corrupt, corrupt from the bottom to the top

And you tell me it’s the law

 

 


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Shame things descend like this......one bitten, twice shy or is that twice bitten once shy......I am not sure what the op is referring to, or whether he is right or wrong, but if he feels that way, then someone whether publicly or behind the scenes ought to be taking a look to ensure a level playing field

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Please get your facts straight. I never questioned @Glenns decision. All I did was ask him to clarify the printed rules as I understood them differently.

I don't actually agree that someone stating they'd accept a lower price to someone who backs out should automatically lower the asking price for all but respect the forum rules if utilizing it to sell. Mind you, I'd also respect a Mods decision after asking for adjudication instead of ignoring it entirely.


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@Rom sorry you feel you've had a bad experience. It's not uncommon for sales threads to get a little complicated. When they do, mods try their best to clarify in the interests of fairness and forum rules as is the case in your sales thread. It's also understandable, though not exactly helpful, when other forum members chime in and offer their views and opinions as this can lead to things getting heated.


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I do see the OP’s point with regards to rules being broken today & the item moved to sold. So many times you see people sending a PM, almost appearing to do the deal away from the public eyes of the forum. IMHO that person should then be restricted from buying that item.


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I do see the OP’s point with regards to rules being broken today & the item moved to sold. So many times you see people sending a PM, almost appearing to do the deal away from the public eyes of the forum. IMHO that person should then be restricted from buying that item.
Trouble is, in that particular instance the reply PM (if there even was one) could have just been advising negotiation needed to be on the open forum. It's not as if someone else claimed it on the thread only to find out it had sold already.

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Surely this could have been pointed out to the person concerned on the thread , at the time ??

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Not my place @Nicknak, I’m not a mod & actually enjoy reading everyone’s journey. Just saying that this rule seems to be abused fairly regularly.


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Surely this could have been pointed out to the person concerned on the thread , at the time ??
Yep but only if it was caught before he claimed it on the open forum anyway. He may well have realised his mistake of his own accord. I know several forums where sending a PM is the recognised form of negotiation (ironically so as not to publicly show what someone's willing to accept incase the deal falls through) that I don't find it too surprising when it happens here.

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I think you have to be thick skinned to use any forum or social media, because you never know what's about to happen. This forum is sometimes over-policed, sometimes clicky, sometimes inconsistent, sometimes inhabited by people just running up their post count for some reason. And rude surprisingly often. But it's 95% good with good people. But it could be worse, Charlie could make a comeback and fleece everyone.


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I'm wondering if the op is referring to the sale of my SJ today.

 

I received a PM from the buyer asking if a friend of theirs that is Coventry tomorrow could collect the grinder.

 

As the buyer only had 11 previous posts I gave them the benefit of the doubt re the rules and pm'd them back explaining that the forum does not allow for discussion via PM until an item has been sold and that if they wanted to buy the grinder to make that clear on the listing and I would then be happy to discuss the details for collection via PM.

 

The buyer then said on the forum thread they'd take the grinder and It was sold for the full asking price.

 

It was a dilemma when I received their PM and I made a judgement on replying to it following the HX gate affair, on this occasion no one lost out as the price was fixed and the buyer asked before anyone else showed any interest.


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I think you have to be thick skinned to use any forum or social media, because you never know what's about to happen. This forum is sometimes over-policed, sometimes clicky, sometimes inconsistent, sometimes inhabited by people just running up their post count for some reason. And rude surprisingly often. But it's 95% good with good people. But it could be worse, Charlie could make a comeback and fleece everyone.

 

I'm not thick skinned but I pretty much fall into most of your other characterisations. You missed a few more - generous, helpful, witty, knowledgeable and willing to share their knowledge. For starters . . .


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I guess the Mods have lives to lead and very likely do not monitor everything going on all the time ..

If I felt someone was doing something against the rules and felt aggrieved By that I would place my feelings politely on the thread or find a way to alert those Mods ...

I have seen this done on several occasions ..

I don’t let anything said on here bother me any !

Most people I find friendly and very helpful ..

Others I view with mild amusement ..

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Rom is being very quiet. I wonder if he can send PM's but not post in any section of the forum. Anyone like to comment?

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I'm not thick skinned but I pretty much fall into most of your other characterisations. You missed a few more - generous, helpful, witty, knowledgeable and willing to share their knowledge. For starters . . .

 

I missed nothing.


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Rom is being very quiet. I wonder if he can send PM's but not post in any section of the forum. Anyone like to comment?

 

Yes

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I'm disappointed that anyone thinks anything to do with forum moderation is corrupt

 

The rules are clearly stated and have been in place for thousands of transactions successfully

 

Perhaps I could have been clearer in the adjudication - the fact is that Rule 4 applied - there's no denying that

At no time was I appeasing the majority vote - I simply applied the rules as they were written

 

Anyway - think what you like

I was in all day meetings and viewing from my phone whilst commuting due to being alerted by nearly a dozen members of the thread

 

When I was able to do so I reviewed (due to continued chatter) and clarified further

 

As for anyone speculating about what happened / no reply?

Please don't - it's unhelpful

Sometimes people like to take time out for any number of reasons, or have commitments offline requiring their attention

Account certainly still live with posting rights


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I'm wondering if the op is referring to the sale of my SJ today.

 

I received a PM from the buyer asking if a friend of theirs that is Coventry tomorrow could collect the grinder.

 

As the buyer only had 11 previous posts I gave them the benefit of the doubt re the rules and pm'd them back explaining that the forum does not allow for discussion via PM until an item has been sold and that if they wanted to buy the grinder to make that clear on the listing and I would then be happy to discuss the details for collection via PM.

 

The buyer then said on the forum thread they'd take the grinder and It was sold for the full asking price.

 

It was a dilemma when I received their PM and I made a judgement on replying to it following the HX gate affair, on this occasion no one lost out as the price was fixed and the buyer asked before anyone else showed any interest.

 

I believe I moved it to sold. I saw that the buyer mentioned sending a PM, but in the next post openly agreed to buy it at asking price. No other member comments were made, no one else jumped in and no moderation was necessary.

 

As part of the moderation team I commit my time to help make this place run as smoothly as possible, not just come on here to browse through the odd post that interests me. There is a lot we do in the background that no one sees, and no one is infallible. We can only go by the guidelines and rules set out when we joined (like everybody else) and advise accordingly.


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Top work by moderators really, its not easy at all have been one myself on motorbike forum and that was way worse, so many spats over nothing!

Sale threads are always a bit tricky to.

 

Good to see Glenn and the mods do there best and as been said can not be on here 24/7, who I guess put in their time for for free as most mods do.


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Anyway who was Rom? Did we lose one of the great characters!


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It's coffeegate all over again.

Having moderated for a long period of time myslef, I probably annoyed him last time , it's a thankless task, done in one's own time , with no reward. You didn't have time for Machiavellian plots or vendettas . I only wish someone had tried to corrupt me ...I'd have bitten their hand off.

Lastly , having midded for a so long , I released none of it really matters in the grand scheme of the world turning . Directing Anger and energy at real corruption in the outside world instead of on a coffee forum would be a better idea . I realised after a period of time Thats these type of threads and posts and getting overly angry on a coffee forum are not a good use of one's Time.

 

 

 

 

Really lastly , the secret mod plot paid off ..he's gone. See you all in the super secret mod and ex mod thread to celebrate

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Anyway who was Rom? Did we lose one of the great characters!

 

Really, What is this forum? Now you publicly say this about someone when you know that the can’t defend themselves. Nice, you should be very proud of yourselves

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I thought Glenn said he had posting rights still etc?


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