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Hi guys. So the Vesuvius I ordered will finally arrive tomorrow. Can't wait! As there are quite a few owners here, I was wondering if you had any starters advice? What profiles to start with and grind settings? I've downloaded @ronsil's excel file and will have a play around. It's paired with a Niche grinder. I've got some sumatran dark roast beans from Wogan's in Bristol. Coming from a Gaggia classic, I'm expecting things to be quite different. Upgrades wise, I read about the knife foam tip and IMS Screen change. Worth doing straight away or wait? I hope it's alright to pester you guys with questions here. Very excited to start playing around with it once it gets here :D

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Mine is standard and fine steaming is fine. maybe the Kees van Weston screen, not bothered me though


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Just a comment. I think you will enjoy the Vesuvius but be warned there is quite a lot to learn.

 

The steam blade I found great but why not start off with the 'status quo' then after a few months you will see for yourself what is needed for your own development. The blade is a very expensive tool & if you are only producing a few milk drinks it may well prove to be an un-neccesary expense.

Enjoy your coffee journey.


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The biggest plus you will see is from temperature stability and hopefully just making your coffee experience easier and more consistent.

Stick to a simple profile, short pre infusion and 9 bar and get a tasty coffee first.

Leave the steam arm, a knife is massively over priced.


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First of all get a standard heavy duty 13 amp UK plug. The power lead is an EU one and you will have to cut off that and wire the UK one - 5 mins.

I did get the KVW shower screen - not sure if its any improvement though.

Profile wise I have a std 9 bar, a 9 bar with preinfusion, a 6 bar plus two lever style ones.

My go to one is 14s 2Bar, the 5 secs each at 10,9,8,7,6 and 5 bar - total shot time 44s - 18g in 36g out

To use the same grind on my L1 I use the lever profile but with PI 7sec at 2 bar instead .

Can produce some excellent shots and as said before is very temp stable. The boiler offset is set at 13c which is spot on when I did a home made space test. Just make sure that all the defaults are set to DaveC’s excellent guide.


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I'd suggest setting the temperature to 93 degrees then leaving it. I tend to flip between a 6 bar flat profile and a similar profile to Steve; 14s at 2 bar then 9 bar declining to 6. I'm generally using a ratio of 18 to 38 to 45. I use lighter roasts through an EK43. I tried the Niche but think ibprefer the EK from a flavour perspective. I need to get them side by side again before I conclude that comparison though.

 

I have the blade. I quite like it but I'm not sure it's any better than the 4 hole tip I use at work. Perhaps easier with small amounts of milk.


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Aww shucks! ;)

 

It is very good temperature wise though....


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Unpacked and put on counter. Now to go through the manual. Will post pic of the setup once I've found a way to upload. It's gorgeous!!

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Ta da!, Indeed! Congratulations :) it looks fantastic!


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Very nice in Noir thought I was the last person to get black shame on you,haha


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Black is the new shiny. That looks ace, especially with the black Niche. Congrats.

 

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Day 1 and I've run into a potential issue. The machine is leaking from below. Just where the drip tray is at the edge. I'll upload a video to youtube to post here.

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Just pull it out, put water in the tray it self and see if the tray leaks


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Have you actually pushed the tray all the way in, give it a quick tap with pressure with side of your hand.


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Thanks Jony! It was the tray. Slightly loose on one side. Removed it and fit it again. Much more snug and the issue seems to have resolved.

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Just made my first shot using a 2,10, 9,8,7, 6,5 profile with Wogan Coffee's La Bastilla beans. I'm surprised by how different (less bitter, more body) it tastes compared to Gaggia.

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Have you double checked all the machine? no bends or creaks, and how silent is it? Double check the tray


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Gave it a once over again. No creaks. Everything fits. The tray was loose. I don't have anything to compare it to but by a few videos I've seen on YouTube of the machine, it sounds pretty similar. No loud noises. Just the pump starting slow and ramping up as per profile. I'll keep a close eye while using it, checking if water leaks again. For now, it's all dry again.

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What temp do you have it on? (Mine is on 94C at the moment, 93C also worked for me)

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