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The BE is a really nice proper first machine (it was mine). Looks nicer than the DTP and has more features.


The bottom line though is when it comes to making espresso and steaming milk qaulitywise they are identical.


Volumetric shots are nice but no two shots will be identical so you will end up wanting a bit less or more. I ended up programming it long and stopping manually each time.


The guage is mostly a gimmick and is of minimal utility. It has no numbers. I found my best shots were beyond the range. What is a real indicator of a shot is its slow syrupy flow.


Solanoid valve yes gets the puck drier quicker. DTP does the same but takes longer. If in a hurry turn the water out in the drip tray and knockout as normal.


Controllable manual preinfusion is cool. Allows you to go really fine on the grind and create a longer preinfusion.


The adjustable temp is really neither here nor there. I tried it a few times and couldn't notice much difference. To do so you would have to do extensive testing.


Saying all that 360 is a crazy price for the BE as on ebay well maintained it will fetch 300 to 330 all day long used. When you are ready to up your game you can by a separate grinder and try it with the BE to compare with its inbuilt grinder.

Sage Duo Temp - La Cimbali 6/S A 64mm flat burr + numerous projects: Sunbeam, Ascaso, Gaggia

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Just thought I would mention as I'm looking at buying a Sage machine, the cashback offer ends on the 7th November and you need to dispose of an old machine and send them a photo of it.

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