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Are you currently using a chopstick or have you gone back to shaking, Dave?

 

I still use that wooden chopstick, give it a quick stir for a few seconds and thats it.


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I used mine today for espresso .....grind, shake a little, turn it up hoy it in, pull the shot....no spritzing with a single spout, tastes good.....whats the fascination with bottomless?.......just for good measure, switched to a bottomless, same procedure without fanning on, perfect pour

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Is the above post basically, no i haven't used a 15g vst

 

When the sun sets during the winter it tends to mean that the daylight hours that preceded it were shorter, on average than the specifically measured hours of daylight on mid-summers day. Conversely if you measure the hours of daylight that immediately follow the sunrise 3 days after the equinox it is likely that the temperature was on the whole 3.4783231 degrees warmer than on a wet Wednesday in Honduras except, as seems unlikely, if the rain in Spain really does happen mainly in the mountains on Shrove Tuesday. But if you use a Gaggia Classic with the stock basket the maximum dose is nearer 15.6785g without tamping but channeling is more likely with an EK43 on Thursday.


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I still use that wooden chopstick, give it a quick stir for a few seconds and thats it.

 

Thanks! Was afraid I was falling behind the vanguard of Nichery after watching this:

 

 

Do you use some sort of anti-popcorn inner lid in that video?

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When the sun sets during the winter it tends to mean that the daylight hours that preceded it were shorter, on average than the specifically measured hours of daylight on mid-summers day. Conversely if you measure the hours of daylight that immediately follow the sunrise 3 days after the equinox it is likely that the temperature was on the whole 3.4783231 degrees warmer than on a wet Wednesday in Honduras except, as seems unlikely, if the rain in Spain really does happen mainly in the mountains on Shrove Tuesday. But if you use a Gaggia Classic with the stock basket the maximum dose is nearer 15.6785g without tamping but channeling is more likely with an EK43 on Thursday.

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@jaffro Ive been using a 15gVST naked straight from the off. Ive now gone through around 4.5kg of beans with no major problems. Im now going through the CC three 500g offer which were lighter roasts. Ive upped the dose to 16g. Gives me good results. I grind in cup, stir with a long screw!!, into the pf. Tap NE, SE, SW and NW. I get a nice mound (mostly) which I tap level then tamp. For comparison I have an ECM Mechanica.

15g vst is a bitch, with any grinder. Especially at 9 bar....

It will be a combination of distribution allied to the face that you are grinding alot finer, as the dose is less, there is less coffee, the coffee bed is less dense, therefore finer grind to create some flow and resistance. Finer you go, the harder it is to get more even in the basket and for the grinder to keep really even too. Lastly add the more surface area of the combined holes on a vst means = it's a bitch.

Not much help I know, but hopefully gives you some perspective.


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Thanks! Was afraid I was falling behind the vanguard of Nichery after watching this:

 

 

Do you use some sort of anti-popcorn inner lid in that video?

That's his cunningly placed pringles lid. Edited by ashcroc

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Thanks! Was afraid I was falling behind the vanguard of Nichery after watching this:

 

 

Do you use some sort of anti-popcorn inner lid in that video?

 

Whoop! The Video :) I can enjoy the stickerless bottom all over again :)


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In the hopper or on the cup?
In the hopper & to reduce the space for popcorning as you rightly guessed. Think he mentioned it in passing on this thread but it was a while ago so easily missed.

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I'm using the Pringles lid and it works to stop the bits flying under the lid. However, muppetry... the lid is near enough transparent and I have been know to dump a load of beans on top of it with consequences I leave to your imagination... Now looking for a coloured equivalent...


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Looks like I can enjoy a 15g VST. IMS seem to have done the same thing

 

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Argggggggggggg the 15 was sold as a 12 which is what I wanted.

 

John

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I'm using the Pringles lid and it works to stop the bits flying under the lid. However, muppetry... the lid is near enough transparent and I have been know to dump a load of beans on top of it with consequences I leave to your imagination... Now looking for a coloured equivalent...

 

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I'm using the Pringles lid and it works to stop the bits flying under the lid. However, muppetry... the lid is near enough transparent and I have been know to dump a load of beans on top of it with consequences I leave to your imagination... Now looking for a coloured equivalent...
Steal some nail polish from your significant other to decorate the top side?

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Looks like I can enjoy a 15g VST. IMS seem to have done the same thing

 

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Argggggggggggg the 15 was sold as a 12 which is what I wanted.

 

John

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Totally different shape to the 15g VST so your search continues.

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Steal some nail polish from your significant other to decorate the top side?

 

Ha, ha! :) :) Good idea!


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Thanks for the replies everyone, a few useful suggestions, I'll have a play!

 

15g vst is a bitch, with any grinder. Especially at 9 bar....

It will be a combination of distribution allied to the face that you are grinding alot finer, as the dose is less, there is less coffee, the coffee bed is less dense, therefore finer grind to create some flow and resistance. Finer you go, the harder it is to get more even in the basket and for the grinder to keep really even too. Lastly add the more surface area of the combined holes on a vst means = it's a bitch.

Not much help I know, but hopefully gives you some perspective.

 

That's useful info, thanks @Mrboots2u :) maybe I'll just put it in a non bottomless portafilter and forget about it haha.

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I use 15 g VST with Niche and LR.

I grind, transfer the coffee to the portafilter with Funnel, then do WDT using Londinium DT.

Perfect pour.


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Totally different shape to the 15g VST so your search continues.

 

I hadn't realised that. The 15g vst is along the same lines as many 14g baskets shape and perforation area wise. The Barista Pro are all similar and more straight sided.

 

Anyway the 15g on a DB might need 17g in it, the Sage double can work well with that amount of coffee in it. So wont be looking for a 15g VST.

 

John

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I finally cleaned the Niche straight after a shot, so thought I’d share some observations.

 

1. There was a lot of course grinds in the threads which might explain issues adjusting from coarse to fine.

 

2. The threads are greased! Be careful if you’re precious about getting grease on your brush and then other parts.

 

3. There are quite a few flakey bits below the burr.

 

4. The compacted grinds on the burr come off nicely using the side of a toothpick.

 

5. The burrs are made by Mazzer ;)

 

6. Some grinds get stuck around the springs. Be careful they don’t go in the hole where the spring is seated or they could upset the spring level.

 

7. When putting everything back I went past the calibration mark by 3 setting marks, which shows some variation from before. I re-calibrated and amended all my records. For info, I was using a range of 12-17 for espresso. Now it’s 15-20.

 

8. I got something like 0.7 to 0.9g out of the bugger. Probably 1g with bits stuck in the brush.

 

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Weirdly enough came here to write up my experiences of cleaning the Niche this morning - Richard and I are clearly in sync. Agree with pretty much everything above, though was actually a couple of setting marks the other side of the calibration mark. Will probably do a quick clean of the silver funnel more frequently to keep on top of the coarse grinds building up.

 

Super easy to clean! Glad I didn't take photos - now feel I wasn't quite as thorough as Richard!


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One thing I'd add would be to dose up by two beans for the first shot after cleaning to counteract the first grind retention


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I cleaned mine for the first time since I got it the other day (shameful, I know, I just kept forgetting to order myself a socket set since moving away from home!). It had probably had 4-5kg through it, mostly light/medium beans, but the occasional 250g of dark CC stuff.

 

It was very satisfying taking it apart and cleaning it, but I’m surprised at how ‘dirty’ yours is! Mine wasn’t even close to that amount of build up... I wonder why that is? Oilier beans, more switching between brew types,...


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