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Used mine this morning for my breakfast routine. It's nice to switch it on and let it do its thing while I made my breakfast. Made an Americano for breakfast and a larger one for my travel mug for when I got to work. Can't really fault it tbh, it does what it does.

 

Does anyone find they don't have to distribute after emptying the cup into the portafilter basket? I've stopped using my Londinium tool and just level the surface with my spinnny thing, then tamp. The bottom of the basket shows a nice even spread of coffee when saturated.


Input: 'Terranovered’ Versalab M3 + Mahlkonig EK43 Turkish burrs + Niche

Output: KVdW Speedster + V60 + AeroPress + Syphon + Bialetti Induction Moka Pot + Bialetti Mucka Express + jar of instant for visitors..

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Quick question. Regarding cleaning. After reading instructions would I be right in thinking that we should not use grinder cleaner tablets?


Dual Boiler™ | Sage, Mazzer Major, VST 18g, 20g, Pullman 58.4mm convex, Mahlkoenig Vario, Hario grinder, Areopress, V60-1, Chemex, Kalita Wave, impress coffee brewer

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Quick question. Regarding cleaning. After reading instructions would I be right in thinking that we should not use grinder cleaner tablets?

 

Why? Just unscrew the top and brush out. Screw the top down until finger tight, align the white dot with the calibrate arrow and turn back to whatever settings you had before.


Input: 'Terranovered’ Versalab M3 + Mahlkonig EK43 Turkish burrs + Niche

Output: KVdW Speedster + V60 + AeroPress + Syphon + Bialetti Induction Moka Pot + Bialetti Mucka Express + jar of instant for visitors..

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Why? Just unscrew the top and brush out. Screw the top down until finger tight, align the white dot with the calibrate arrow and turn back to whatever settings you had before.
Only ask as that's how I used to clean previous grinder...

Dual Boiler™ | Sage, Mazzer Major, VST 18g, 20g, Pullman 58.4mm convex, Mahlkoenig Vario, Hario grinder, Areopress, V60-1, Chemex, Kalita Wave, impress coffee brewer

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Only ask as that's how I used to clean previous grinder...

 

Know what you mean. My others need with an Allen key or a screwdriver, plus a degree of patience to strip down to clean. Even the Mazzer was a bit of a pain to strip. This is just easy, which is how it should be. :)


Input: 'Terranovered’ Versalab M3 + Mahlkonig EK43 Turkish burrs + Niche

Output: KVdW Speedster + V60 + AeroPress + Syphon + Bialetti Induction Moka Pot + Bialetti Mucka Express + jar of instant for visitors..

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Quick question. Regarding cleaning. After reading instructions would I be right in thinking that we should not use grinder cleaner tablets?

 

If it says it in the instructions, I would seriously take notice of the recommendation not to use grinder cleaning tablets/grindz, I am certain the person who put that in knew what they were talking about. Just do it the old fashioned way. However retention is quite low so it does not tend to get dirty as quickly. I would recommend once every 3-6 months....or again whatever it says in the instructions.


ACS Vesuvius DBPP, Izzo Duetto DB, Minima DB, Lelit Bianca Prototype DB (paddle flow control) BTC Machines: Roasters: Amazon Dalian 1kg Drum Roaster, other failed roasters: Grinders: Ceado E92, Niche US and UK: 145kg assorted greens: My reviews at https://coffeeequipmentreviews.wordpress.com/

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If it says it in the instructions, I would seriously take notice of the recommendation not to use grinder cleaning tablets/grindz, I am certain the person who put that in knew what they were talking about. Just do it the old fashioned way. However retention is quite low so it does not tend to get dirty as quickly. I would recommend once every 3-6 months....or again whatever it says in the instructions.
I'm definitely not questioning the instructions. Just wanted to clarify that tablets is on the list of specialist cleaning products. I'm guessing they are

Dual Boiler™ | Sage, Mazzer Major, VST 18g, 20g, Pullman 58.4mm convex, Mahlkoenig Vario, Hario grinder, Areopress, V60-1, Chemex, Kalita Wave, impress coffee brewer

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I have a question regarding coarse grind. It seems that the grinds are still quite fine even on the coarse setting, and I have to rotate the adjustment another full rotation counter-clockwise to get a coarse grind to use with my Bunn Trifecta. Any other experiences with this?

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Well, the burrs will take a little time to settle down. Today has been espresso but tomorrow for breakfast it is going to be a Clever dripper which needs a fairly coarse grind, so at some point I will report back. At the moment, the grinder is set to 20 for my espresso which suggests plenty of room left even when they settle down, but in the tests done by @MWJB on brewed, there did not seem to be any problem grinding appropriately

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So so impressed with this.

 

From the packaging to the initiative way of calibrating it to the quietness and the grind cup.

 

My ONLY gripe is the cord storage, this could and should feel slicker than it does in my honest opinion but it seems to work regardless.

 

Tried a few shots earlier and gave me much nicer flavour in the cup, also didn't need to distribute post grind, just into the PF, quick tap and then tamp.

 

Overall, very happy.468a54ffba358b0041bd31d7c93a07ad.jpg


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Been trying mine out today and have to say I love it. I haven't quite got it right yet (trying it out for pourover before spro). Went for 34 in the middle of the filter range, but it was waaaayy finer than I'd usually grind for the kalita. Backed off to 50, but still a little fine. Will have to back off further tomorrow and take another crack :)

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How many people have calibrated their Niche?

 

Doing it to mine dropped my espressos from mid twenties to mid tens, so this may reflect the numbers being off the guide.

 

I will reiterate how happy I am with the Niche, has simplified and sped up my coffee routine massively, only downside being that I am drinking more coffee.


Sage DTP - Compak K10 & Niche Zero

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... is anyone after a Ceado E37s?

 

I'm curious to hear your thoughts regarding taste differences between the Niche and your E37s -- how do they compare? Did you use your E37s for single-dosing?

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Hello to all,

 

Am posting from Australia as I am one of the early peps to have received the Niche and user feedback is a bit light on the ground at the moment.

 

Anyway, I am finding that I am sitting at the 34 mark for espresso, which in itself is fine but just looks odd sitting in the middle of the filter setting for espresso. Reading some of the comments above I was wondering if it would be worth looking to calibrate the grinder?

 

If so, how do you do it? I have read the instructions but they seem a bit odd given that once calibrated you are supposed unscrew the funnel anti-clockwise back to the chosen grind setting. Surely going in this direction will remove the grind funnel?

 

I have tried removing the funnel and then screwing back on until finger tight (a few more than 4 turns). The white dot was not aligned to the calibrate mark so I turned the black dial counter-clockwise until it did. Is this correct or have I missed something?

 

Sorry for the questions but it just seems odd to be so far off the espresso end of the dial.

 

Appreciate any or all suggestions.

 

Cheers and happy brewing.

 

Alastair

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Hello to all,

 

Am posting from Australia as I am one of the early peps to have received the Niche and user feedback is a bit light on the ground at the moment.

 

Anyway, I am finding that I am sitting at the 34 mark for espresso, which in itself is fine but just looks odd sitting in the middle of the filter setting for espresso. Reading some of the comments above I was wondering if it would be worth looking to calibrate the grinder?

 

If so, how do you do it? I have read the instructions but they seem a bit odd given that once calibrated you are supposed unscrew the funnel anti-clockwise back to the chosen grind setting. Surely going in this direction will remove the grind funnel?

 

I have tried removing the funnel and then screwing back on until finger tight (a few more than 4 turns). The white dot was not aligned to the calibrate mark so I turned the black dial counter-clockwise until it did. Is this correct or have I missed something?

 

Sorry for the questions but it just seems odd to be so far off the espresso end of the dial.

 

Appreciate any or all suggestions.

 

Cheers and happy brewing.

 

Alastair

 

You tighten the funnel to finger tight then click the black plastic ring round til the white dot aligns with "calibrate". Then you have the grind wound right in, so don't turn it on. You then wind the funnel back anticlockwise til the white dot points to your desired grind setting.

 

For me this led to quite a shift although I did it before use so couldn't tell you where it would've been uncalibrated, but 30s down to teens wouldn't seem out of the question. In fact the ring could've been spun to any position on delivery in theory.

Edited by LukeT

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Amazed by the lack of retention, hope it continues!


Sage DB | Ceado E37S | MBK 585 |

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Amazed by the lack of retention, hope it continues!

 

It does and I still keep weighing in and out, more for the fascination than the need to weigh the output of the grinder.


ACS Vesuvius DBPP, Izzo Duetto DB, Minima DB, Lelit Bianca Prototype DB (paddle flow control) BTC Machines: Roasters: Amazon Dalian 1kg Drum Roaster, other failed roasters: Grinders: Ceado E92, Niche US and UK: 145kg assorted greens: My reviews at https://coffeeequipmentreviews.wordpress.com/

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It does and I still keep weighing in and out, more for the fascination than the need to weigh the output of the grinder.

 

Have to say after doing the first few shots and seeing that there was quite literally 0 retention on 0.1g scales I haven't bothered since. Love the fact that I don't have 3-4g of stale coffee in the first shot of the day. I think the Niche is going to have a very bright future and become the standard for home grinders. Small, well built, infinitely adjustable, zero retention, quiet and great grind quality.

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I'm curious to hear your thoughts regarding taste differences between the Niche and your E37s -- how do they compare? Did you use your E37s for single-dosing?

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I don’t think it’s fair to compare Niche and E37s. The taste wise they both can pull great shots, but I’m in honeymoon period with Niche right now and would prefer not to jump to conclusions. In regards to the taste, I wouldn’t think I’d call an upgrade either way (Niche to E37s or E37s to Niche). Not right now, at least!

 

I also focus a lot more in dialling in, preparation and tasting as it’s a new toy to play with.

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Being new to electric grinders what do people do about the chaff that remains in the burr chamber, do you just leave it? On my hand grinder I just blow it off with a puffer but of course with the Niche it would just go everywhere, and cant just lift it up and take it to the sink each time. I might have just found one small thing I prefer about my Feld :) or maybe I could use a mini vac or just leave it. Dont suppose a bit more chaff makes much difference but I've got used to just giving it a quick puff and its gone and I just like it clean, think I might get a mini vac.


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It's tiny! Even in comparison with a 65e. And very pretty. It's also slow. I had to back the grind setting off to 25 to get 35g out from 18g in in 30 seconds with my current bean. It's more staticy than my 65e but the grind is excellent, even on brand new burrs, very even and VERY fluffy. The catch cup is all very well but I'm finding that the grinds are so fluffy it's difficult to trnsfer to the basket without making an unholy mess. Worth it in the cup though, I'm definitely getting more complex flavours even in milk. I'd still rather have a Mythos but I'll persist with this for a while before deciding whether the 65e or the Niche goes.

 

I just checked the calibration and it was miles (well, 9 clicks) out. Now the setting makes a lot more sense! :)


Rocket Giotto Evoluzione v2, Eureka Zenith 65E, Niche grinder, Pharos grinder with VoodooDaddy mods, Eureka MDL, Torr Goldfinger, Smart Tamp. Various coffee stuff.

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Being new to electric grinders what do people do about the chaff that remains in the burr chamber, do you just leave it?

 

 

Either leave it or use the supplied brush to push it down. Run the grinder for a few seconds and give it a light tap and the retention just falls out usually. Its a tiny amount though.

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Having previously had a La Marzocco grinder with the same burrs in that I loved (sold due to the massive retention - one for commercial use only!), it's fabulous to get back to conical burrs. I've been using a Compak E5 with 58mm flat burrs, and the house bean is Rave Mocha Java (I incur the wrath of wife when I change it for her morning latte), with the niche this bean is smoother and tastes of pure chocolate instead of having that hint of roast burn flavour that I couldn't quite eliminate using the compak, seems as good as I remember with the old LM. Had an E37 previously, fabulous grinder but I'm not fond of the flavours punching you in the face that a big flat burr seems to produce vs. the smooth balance of conicals, this is purely personal preference though. Smoooooooooooth.

 

I've cleared some clutter from the coffee corner. After half a dozen or so shots I feel like the distribution tool is no longer needed, don't need a teaspoon to finesse the grind weight due to unreliable timers, and the output is fluffy lovely so I've sacked off the leveling tool too as it's such a pleasure to flatten with a finger when there isn't even the faintest clump.

 

I did weigh a couple in/out but when the second lot of grinds came out only 0.08g lighter, decided I'd not bother with that again. Routine will be simplified with beans pre-weighed into spice jars the night before and then it's just a case of emptying a jar in for each double shot.

 

Looking forward to trying with a much broader range of beans rather than the very easy going 'safe' option of the Rave blend.

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Using on a Vesuvius, 14 sec 2 bar preinfusion, then 10 bar to a declining lever type profile.

My Espresso blend, medium , 10 days post roast setting 24

Decaf roasted dark side of medium, 10 days post roast 16

This was to get 35g from 18g

 

Will test using two other profiles, std 9 bar and std 9 bar with short preinfusion at a later date.

 

This was after calibration. Wound the funnel only finger tight, could go a few notches finer but the burrs would lock, then moved the black ring to align dot with calibration point.

 

Must say it is much smaller and quieter than I expected and retention low.

Can’t see mine going to the fro sale section any time soon!


Espresso : Vesuvius Steel Pipework, Londinium L1, Ponte Vecchio Lusso  Grinders : EK43 & Titus alignment tool, Compak E10, Mazzer Royal, Niche Zero Black, Macap MC7 Deli, OE Pharos, Hausgrind, Feldgrind, Feld 47

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