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Have a drink made on each machine. Will you be able to detect a difference.......I doubt it.....after that, it is aesthetics

And design decisions, component choices and location, drain taps on boilers, cup height under grouphead, capacity of drip tray etc. I agree on whether we can taste a difference between machines (most of us are not supertasters) but on high end machines there are other factors which we don't take into account until we're aware of them. It's why DaveC reviews are different to most.

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Treated myself again!!!! God I'm bloody good to myself :)

As I was a lucky bugger and won a quality tamper I had to buy the Emc tamper stAtion to go with it. Sure it will make my coffee taste better ?

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The other choice would be ECM Mechanica IV/Profitec 500.The engineering in the Profitec really appeals. SS boiler, upgraded valves and, iirc, pump. Also no "Shit I've burned my fekkin fingers" steam wand on the Profitec. ECM isnt far off for a little bit less money.

 

Tally ho!

 

Ha, I'm struggling with exactly the same dilemma. The Profitec 500 vs. the Mechanica IV profi. It'll be my first HX machine, so lot's of research has gone into it (and quite a bit of indecision, too.) The ECM machines look beautiful and I like the lever vs. the knobs personally.

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What machine do you have at the minute?

Not sure if you have considered volumetric but it is a really fantastic feature to have, really helps keep your shots consistent, when you get over the honeymoon period with experimenting etc it's really super for using day to day. Personally for me it was a feature my final machine choice had to have and I'm very glad of it now.

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Treated myself again!!!! God I'm bloody good to myself :)

As I was a lucky bugger and won a quality tamper I had to buy the Emc tamper stAtion to go with it. Sure it will make my coffee taste better

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Looks great mate - please let us know how you get on with it? Have been considering.

 

Been using a tamping mat and has been fine though kind of don't like pressing bottom of basket against mat - especially as there's sometimes grind fines on there.

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How do you find the grinder?

 

Hi, I really like it, have no complaints what so ever. I did look at the Ecm automatic-64 grinder as I think the design would compliment my Elektronika but this came up went for it. It's great specs for the price.

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I have looked at the ECM grinder but its getting bad press on here so back to the drawing board

 

There is a lot of knowledgeable folk on here who can really identify small small differences but in all honestly if you like the look of the Ecm grinder I bet it would be a super grinder for your espresso needs. Differences between all these high end grinders will be on the whole not very noticeable to the average coffee enthusiast.

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Finally got round to getting a small hopper for my F83, I really like it as it will look fuller with beans more often and the big one is really big. Had to order a special ring from Italia (thanks Dave aka Spud36 for help with this) and the mazzer mini hopper.

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I can't believe more folk don't want volumetric on this forum, I just love the convenience and consistency with a family and busy life.

 

Adds an extra layer of electronics that I don't feel are necessary IMO. More to go wrong, plus while your volumes may be fixed you'd have to recalibrate for every bean if you change regularly like me.

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Not being necessary is subjective, a dishwasher/ tumble dryer etc aren't necessary but can make your life a little easier.

I really don't adjust the volumes that often, 16g of coffee in, 32g of espresso out. The odd time I'll adjust if its a particularly bitter etc taste.

Unless you have a good lever I'm sure I probably get more consistent coffee as the human factor of knocking of the flow at the exact point every time is removed. Only my opinion :)

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I can now see 1 benefit of volumetric, which I didn't know about at the time of choosing machine.

 

Popcorn and naked portafilter have something in common. I don't know what it is, but something magical, hypnotic and therapeutic.

 

Number of times I've burnt my popcorn in the frying pan, because it wanted to see 1 more 'pop'.

 

Number of times my shot went beyond optimum, because I was mesmerised by the beautiful stripes flowing out of the naked pf and lost track of the weight shown on the scale or the second on the shot timer..

 

If I had the volumetric, I could fully submerge myself in the gazing of the beautiful flow without keeping one eye on something else!

 

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I enjoy the watching as much as the drinking ☺

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I can't believe more folk don't want volumetric on this forum, I just love the convenience and consistency with a family and busy life.

 

I do man I do.....

 

Is on list if I ever upgrade. It just seems a bit silly to go from mechanika profi to electronika.

 

And ecm have confirmed they don’t intend to make a synchronika with volumetrics :-(

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Hahaha! I recognise that symptom. I first got a naked portafilter to check up on my distribution (and make space for scales between cup and drip tray). Inevitably you check each shot to see how the bottom of the basket wets, and hope for a lovely central striped pour. On the occasions it doesn't go according to plan, you get a Kaldi's arrow in the eye (my word for a well-aimed spritz) or you find yourself trying to 'will' that little dry spot in the middle of the basket to join in the fun before you have to kill the shot - it can get quite exciting in a silly kind of way, the race against the clock/scales!

 

I've burnt popcorn too...

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I can now see 1 benefit of volumetric, which I didn't know about at the time of choosing machine.

 

Popcorn and naked portafilter have something in common. I don't know what it is, but something magical, hypnotic and therapeutic.

 

Number of times I've burnt my popcorn in the frying pan, because it wanted to see 1 more 'pop'.

 

Number of times my shot went beyond optimum, because I was mesmerised by the beautiful stripes flowing out of the naked pf and lost track of the weight shown on the scale or the second on the shot timer..

 

If I had the volumetric, I could fully submerge myself in the gazing of the beautiful flow without keeping one eye on something else!

 

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I enjoy the watching as much as the drinking ☺

 

Jewel that is a real thing you describe amongst us coffee hippies, I've lost count of the amount of times I've said to my wife "quick honey come over here" to watch that thick brown nectar ha ha coffee porn lol. Glad none of my work colleagues can read this lol.

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