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Hi.. I have a kitchen aid espresso maker ( dual boilers for coffee and steam) It must be nearly 8 yrs old and has just recently stopped passing water through the main boiler.. Everything else seems to be working. The milk steamer side works perfectly.. Both boilers get hot and it seems to be making all the right noises, but just no water coming through the coffee making side.

Does anyone one with any experience of these have any ideas as to what could be wrong or any troubleshooting ideas. ( I have cleaned all easily assesible parts and tried to run descalent through)

i also called kitchen aid...their response was that they have no parts available for repairing that particular model until June...but offered me a new replacement for a discount!

Also if anyone knows of any engineers that would be able to help In the East Midlands area?

Thanks all..... Really missing my espressos..I've resorted the an old trusty Moka pot!!! :coffee::coffee:

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Sounds like a typical solenoid valve blockage.

If you are comfortable opening up the machine, you are looking for a part attached to the side of brew boiler that has a black box on it. This needs to be removed and cleaned out. Give it a good soak in descaler/citric acid and wiggle a pin down the holes to disrupt and remove the scale.

If my guess is correct, this should fix the issue. Most of the internal parts are exactly the same as a Gaggia Classic, so if you have any issues, that would be a better (and possibly cheaper) source.

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Thanks for that... I think I've located the solenoid valve..but not sure how to remove it... Might be a 'blue job' for when the hubby gets home!! Thanks also for the info on gaggia being the same parts.. That could be more helpful than kitchen aids response!

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Removal of the solenoid will probably require removal of the whole boiler unit in order to get easier access. I don't know the Kitchenaid well enough to know how much room you have to play with inside. A Google search for 'kitchenaid coffee parts diagram' will provide useful information.

 

Edit: I should clarify that cleaning the solenoid involves opening it up and removing the plunger. Somtimes it is easier to leave it bolted to the boiler to open it since you can get a better grip, then remove the bottom section from the boiler to descale it once dismantled. No half measures here! It's a very simple part so no issues with putting it back together.

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Basically similar to a dual boiler Gaggia classic and the internals are all the same. A lot of second hand ones seem to have lifting paint at the back from moisture, but unsure if this is leakage, or just moisture from the water reservoir.

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Never use a pin to clear holes. They are made of steel or hard alloy. When cleaning holes or especially jets, always use something made from a softer metal. Fusewire or copper strands from electrical cable work well and will not damage the metal. A steel pin will ruin a jet or gicleur.

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I started on one of these.. a good descaling (the things you learn, eh?) would have kept it alive longer!

I might still have some parts in a box.. where are you?

 

Would you have a spare steam wand temp gauge? Mine works fine but the gauge has given up it would seem. Not sure if it's broken or stuck but only the main group two gauge seems to work now.

Doesn't stop it working but would like to fix it as I might try to sell it to upgrade:)

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Just wondering if anyone can help me as to how to remove the top half of my kitchenaid to get in & fix the steam gauge I mentioned earlier in the thread. Not sure which screws to loosen & which to leave alone!

 

Any help much appreciated:)

 

I would source a replacement gauge before taking your machine apart. They might not be easy to find as the model is no longer in production. From the parts diagram I have seen, it looks like you just have to start from the top and remove a rather long connecting rod.

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Do people see these machines as a serious alternative to the Classic?

 

The 25 Amazon reviews on them suggest that some can have problems pretty quickly.. Ok the good men do is buried with their bones and the evil lives long after - but .........

 

John

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I looked up the price on their own site...it's not a cheap machine £669, looks a million dollars in the photo though and reflecting the modern retro appeal of Kitchenaid stuff. The lack of any technical information on the Kitchenaid site is breathtaking though. It's water capacity is stated as 2 (something or other) and the power consumption max is unavailable etc..

 

https://www.kitchenaid.co.uk/p/coffee-machines/coffee-makers/artisan-espresso-machine-5kes2102/859740215010

I then scanned for some internal shots...on the left when new, on the right some years later.

newold.jpg

 

So probably a great machine at the right price for someone starting out....but I was very surprised to see it at over £669 and in some places considerably more. It's probably better than I think, but not as good as someone deserves for £669

Nothing here...

 

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I worked on one last year, still have it in the garage as a spare machine.

To get the top off, remove the rail and unscrew the three hex screws under the holes that locate the rail, unscrew the cross head screw at the rear near the top. The top will then lift off. The gauges are pretty simple and can be dismantled, bayonet fit into the case. It is likely that the needle is loose and just needs refitting, gauge is not very accurate though.

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HI

I'm currently in the process of replacing the steam button, but forgot to notice how the 4 wires should be attached to the button itself - anyone with a diagram or knows how they should be?

I have 4 pins: 1,2,4,5

I have 4 wires: Brown, Red, light blue and white/light blue.

What goes where?

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Don't forget to let them know the model number

Small Appliances

For general enquiries for Small Domestic Appliances
please call 00800 381 04026
(toll-free number - CUSTOMER AND SALES SUPPORT),
from Monday to Friday from 8.00 am to 5.00 pm.
For service and spares please contact:

KitchenAid
PO BOX 19
BP - 2018 ANTWERP 11
Belgium

Nothing here...

 

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Hi folks,

I acquired a Kitchen Aid espresso machine recently (second hand). At first check all the functions were working properly, I then proceeded to run some descaling product through it to give a good clean and a fresh new start. After one or two uses after that the hot water stopped running through the steam wand although the steam function still works like a charm. After some reading on this forum I figured that it might be due to a clogged valve so took the machine apart and gave the valve a good clean but the problem remains. I'm thinking that the valve might need replacing but that's just a wild guess.

If any one can provide me with some guidance it will be grandly appreciated!

Good day to you all

Guy

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