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To be sure the solenoid is blocked and not faulty press the coffee switch and see if you can hear the internal click that shows the solenoid is active

If you cannot hear it the solenoid needs replacing.

 

The steps to remove the solenoid relate to a number of Gaggia machines

The solenoid may be in a different position on other models

 

Please Note:

Following these steps may invalidate your warranty and neither Coffee Forums UK or the article author gaggiamanualservice cannot accept responsibility for any problems or faults by you following these instructions

 

 

  • Firstly make sure the machine is turned off and cold
  • Remove the 2 screws holding the funnel and lid then lift off and disconnect the earth wire
  • You will see the boiler, the solenoid is on the left hand side
  • Pull the steam knob off and using a 17mm spanner untighten the steam arm
  • Using a 12mm spanner undo the pipe connection to the boiler. It can be done without removing the boiler terminals but I would recommend marking the four top ones 1 to 4 with black marker just in case
  • The boiler unit is now free to lift out.
  • Use 4mm allen key to remove the 4 allen bolts holding the brew head and lift out.
  • Remove the 2 wires from the solenoid and using the 4 mm allen key remove the 2 bolts holding it on.
  • Remove the top bolt from the valve and lift the coil (black box) off.
  • Now you need to remove the tower, a vice is recommended but it can be done with mole grips as I do.
  • Remove the 2 seals to avoid damage, these can be re used.
  • Then grip the base and using spanner, can be 17 to 24 mm depending on type of solenoid then remove.
  • The centre hole is one that will be blocked use a paper clip or something similar to clear the blockage or soak over night in descaler if badly blocked, run under tap into the right hand inlet and make sure that water comes out the centre hole.
  • Then replace by following the reverse process.

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Hi there,

 

Thank you for these instructions.

 

I am going to attempt to do this but was wondering if it would be possible for you to provide a picture with each step or a walk-through video?

 

I would really appreciate the help.

 

Thanks,

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Really helpful post. I realised that if the solenoid needs replacing it's a simple but slightly fiddly matter of taking off the tube at the top, undoing the two wires, and unbolting the two bolts at the base, then bolting on the new solenoid. First time around I replaced the wires in the reverse order so was momentarily crestfallen but spirits and espresso making restored by attaching the wires as they should be. So a big thumbs up for this thread, to Glenn and particularly Mark at gaggiamanualservice because Mark responded faster than lightning to emails and sent out a new solendoid even faster than that.

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Following on from Glen's instructions above, it may be that the Gaggia Classic is a bit simpler than some but I found that I could skip a lot of the steps. I of course started on some of them and then found that they were superfluous for my particular evolution of the machine. It did help that I have a tiny Topeak ratchet spanner for my bike that allowed me to do the 4mm bolts with very little space.

 

 

 

  • Firstly make sure the machine is turned off and cold (OK so I was impatient and burnt myself a bit)
  • Remove the 2 screws holding the funnel and lid then lift off and disconnect the earth wire YES
  • You will see the boiler, the solenoid is on the left hand side (EASIER TO say that it is on the opposite side to the steam knob at the back of the boiler)
  • Pull the steam knob off and using a 17mm spanner untighten the steam arm NO
  • Using a 12mm spanner undo the pipe connection to the boiler. It can be done without removing the boiler terminals but I would recommend marking the four top ones 1 to 4 with black marker just in case NO
  • The boiler unit is now free to lift out. NO
  • Use 4mm allen key to remove the 4 allen bolts holding the brew head and lift out. NO
  • I REMOVED THE little pipe that comes out of the top of the solenoid at this point
  • Remove the 2 wires from the solenoid and using the 4 mm allen key remove the 2 bolts holding it on. YES - found it easiest with the machine sitting on its front so that the spanner was swinging in horizontal plane.
  • Remove the top bolt from the valve and lift the coil (black box) off. YES
  • Now you need to remove the tower, a vice is recommended but it can be done with mole grips as I do. THIS WAS easy with fingers and a spanner - depends on who assembled it !
  • Remove the 2 seals to avoid damage, these can be re used. AT MY RISK I left them in to avoid damaging them whilst removing. They seemed quite well embedded.
  • Then grip the base and using spanner, can be 17 to 24 mm depending on type of solenoid then remove. AGAIN, AT my risk (and you have to make your own choice) did it with spanner and fingers.
  • The centre hole is one that will be blocked use a paper clip or something similar to clear the blockage or soak over night in descaler if badly blocked, run under tap into the right hand inlet and make sure that water comes out the centre hole. I USED a strand from a plastic washing up brush and then stood the assembly in vinegar for an hour, dropping vinegar into the two large holes to run through occasionally.
  • Then replace by following the reverse process. AS REQUIRED

 

Coffee now coming through perfectly so thank you very much for the instruction about where the problem was. Unfortunately I now have no excuse to buy a bigger and better machine :-)

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On 06/03/2011 at 15:23, Glenn said:

To be sure the solenoid is blocked and not faulty press the coffee switch and see if you can hear the internal click that shows the solenoid is active

If you cannot hear it the solenoid needs replacing.

 

The steps to remove the solenoid relate to a number of Gaggia machines

The solenoid may be in a different position on other models

 

Please Note:

Following these steps may invalidate your warranty and neither Coffee Forums UK or the article author gaggiamanualservice cannot accept responsibility for any problems or faults by you following these instructions

 

 

 

  • Firstly make sure the machine is turned off and cold
  • Remove the 2 screws holding the funnel and lid then lift off and disconnect the earth wire
  • You will see the boiler, the solenoid is on the left hand side
  • Pull the steam knob off and using a 17mm spanner untighten the steam arm
  • Using a 12mm spanner undo the pipe connection to the boiler. It can be done without removing the boiler terminals but I would recommend marking the four top ones 1 to 4 with black marker just in case
  • The boiler unit is now free to lift out.
  • Use 4mm allen key to remove the 4 allen bolts holding the brew head and lift out.
  • Remove the 2 wires from the solenoid and using the 4 mm allen key remove the 2 bolts holding it on.
  • Remove the top bolt from the valve and lift the coil (black box) off.
  • Now you need to remove the tower, a vice is recommended but it can be done with mole grips as I do.
  • Remove the 2 seals to avoid damage, these can be re used.
  • Then grip the base and using spanner, can be 17 to 24 mm depending on type of solenoid then remove.
  • The centre hole is one that will be blocked use a paper clip or something similar to clear the blockage or soak over night in descaler if badly blocked, run under tap into the right hand inlet and make sure that water comes out the centre hole.
  • Then replace by following the reverse process.

 

Hi there - I'm currently repairing a Gaggia Baby which has all the marks of a blocked solenoid (water is flowing from the steam wand fine but no/limited water making it to through the group). Having done the job before easily I thought it would be easy but having disassembled and cleaned and checked the coil is working it is still not working - is there anything else glaring that would cause this?

Thanks!

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On 12/01/2021 at 22:47, Legs said:

Hi there - I'm currently repairing a Gaggia Baby which has all the marks of a blocked solenoid (water is flowing from the steam wand fine but no/limited water making it to through the group). Having done the job before easily I thought it would be easy but having disassembled and cleaned and checked the coil is working it is still not working - is there anything else glaring that would cause this?

Thanks!

There's a tiny hole in the solenoid which easily becomes blocked.  Either you can poke the hole with the hole end of a fine needle to hook the scale out, or you can try this: 

 

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On 25/01/2021 at 11:06, allikat said:

There's a tiny hole in the solenoid which easily becomes blocked.  Either you can poke the hole with the hole end of a fine needle to hook the scale out, or you can try this: 

 

Thanks for this - I actually managed to sort it! I think the issue was that I would clear it, and then some more scale left/dislodged from cleaning the boiler would then re-block it. After a full descale it worked as normal. For a small machine, them Gaggia's make a really good espresso!

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