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The E 37S dos not work well as a single dose grinder. Although you may get the correct dose of coffee, a considerable portion of that coffee will be from the previous grind session= stale coffee. For

This. I purge around 10g every morning due to this, and there needs to be at least 300g of beans in the hopper (or equivalent weight) for consistency.   The E37s is simply not an appropriate

So if you have an S, I promise you, you will be experiencing pop corning. Unless you have a weight to push the beans into the burrs then it is inevitable. Which is why several manufacturers have desig

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So my delight with my well behaved grinder lasted precisely as long as the Kilo of Nicaraguan beans!

 

Cracked open a kilo of rested Rwandan today - static central! For one, I am trying to control this with the SCC as I now know how much impact it can have. Increased the SCC twice this morning and helped a little bit nowhere near replicating the above video.

 

Have now added more so will see how that changes things for tomorrow.

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Are we just fighting a never ending battle with some beans.:whistle:

 

That was my thought exactly! Never before had such a swing from one end of the scale to the other between beans.

 

I would say that with A LOT of SCC, I have tamed most of the static. Can almost rest the PF on the rest again, but not quite. Taming the static has come at the cost of the dose tho - my usual 4.5s double dose produces for less than my target 15.5g.

 

More tweaking tomorrow!

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Has anyone read Jeebsy’s blog he posted yesterday? http:// https://allstartedhere.wordpress.com/2018/09/10/grinders/The Anfim clump crusher looks superb - how hard would it be to retrofit something similar to a Ceado, do we think?

 

The SCC is doing a great job of controlling the ridiculous spray from my current beans but only projects into the middle ⅔ of the chute. That is allowing these pesky beans to squeeze through the gap on the RHS and are hitting the counter up to a foot in front of the grinder!

 

I have to hold the PF against the chute to catch everything, and the mound produced looks like this:

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You can clearly see the elevated mount where the high velocity static is hitting the back of the PF.

 

So, big change from my above post!

 

I do like the look of the metal clump crusher - would help to retard the spray also.

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@Beanosaurus - my above frustrations have got me thinking about replicating your ARSE mod.

 

I haven' seen a recent post - are you still running an e37s with ARSE?

 

I also found your link to burr alignment (above), which I would like to try Where did you buy the sticky copper tape?? Cheers

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@Beanosaurus - my above frustrations have got me thinking about replicating your ARSE mod.

 

I haven' seen a recent post - are you still running an e37s with ARSE?

 

I also found your link to burr alignment (above), which I would like to try Where did you buy the sticky copper tape?? Cheers

@rob177palmer

 

Yes, my A.R.S.E. is indeed, still in action!

 

I feel there would be no way you'd be able to mod/retrofit the Anfim spring crusher thing unless you perhaps brought it lower down the chute but you want the crusher device to be as close to the grind chamber exit as possible because you then have enough inertia to blast the coffee grounds through it, any further down and stuff would probably clog.

You'd also likely have dimensional issues of the chute to deal with, might have been a goer if Anfim and Ceado shared the same chute component but its obvious they don't.

 

I have conceived an idea of using a similar 'device' as per Anfim's but it is more like a grate with uniformed spacing and horizontally stacked as that is afterall the axis of which the coffee shoots out at.

We will see... ***Insert sinister laugh***

 

Have a go at making your own A.R.S.E. its slightly fiddly but the results/reward ratio is high.

 

Copper tape was obtained from evilBay. :cool: I believe the rationale for such a material is that it won't degrade (burn) under the heat generated by the burrs nor lose it's adhesion unlike duct tape which tends to have an almost viscous stickyness to it especially when heat is involved. Also duct tape would certainly squash way more than copper and as you're effectively creating a shim you'd want it to maintain height.

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Sweet - thanks for all that. I’m keen to play with alignment tonight (don’t know why hasn’t occurred before) so will have to resort to tin foil this time whilst the tape arrives.

 

It’ll obviously require a beer, which will precipitate an empty can...and I have no idea what I could use that for [emoji12]

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Sweet - thanks for all that. I’m keen to play with alignment tonight (don’t know why hasn’t occurred before) so will have to resort to tin foil this time whilst the tape arrives.

 

It’ll obviously require a beer, which will precipitate an empty can...and I have no idea what I could use that for [emoji12]

 

Post results in my other thread if you please, cheers!:beer:

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I had to bulk grind some crappy beans for a drip machine at the weekend, have to say I was a bit disappointed with how poorly the Ceado grinds at a coarser setting:

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I know this is an espresso grinder. I just hadn’t appreciated how different this is from, say an EK, at the coarser end of the range.

All a learning curve!

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On 02/05/2018 at 06:46, rob177palmer said:

 

Here’s the tube: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200973097176

60mm OD, 4 mm Walls (52mm ID) 200mm long - seems to hold enough for about 150g

 

I have a ball bearing weight:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190674488769

The 50mm option

@rob177palmer My machine has been out of action for months so now I'm back making coffee I am going to order the bits and bobs previously discussed. The ball bearing seller is no longer appearing. I've found others but wanted to check whether you went for stainless steel or a chrome version?

 

Thanks 

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Hi,

This thread hasn't been very active lately so I hope some of you will be checking. I got a new Ceado E37S in October. It came with the smaller hopper. Hoppers overall don't make much sense to me for home users. Single grinding seems the way to go. Exposure to air is the enemy to fresh coffee so why does everyone fill a non air tight container with beans that will sit for days? Depending on your use but we do through 78 grams or so of coffee a day. The difference in price between the Ceado E37S and E37SD is $850 Canadian and I was already pushing my budget spending $2300 C on the E 37S. I use it as a single dose machine. I weight 18 grams of coffee dump them in the grinder and then weight the result. Most grinds I get within .2 grams of what went in which I consider close enough. What has thrown me is how variable I need to set the grind in order to get the 36 gram shot in 30 seconds. My machine has a scale of 1 to 4 with each 1 having 20 divisions. When the machine was new (October) I generally was grinding at about 1.4 to 1.7. Lately I'm down to as low as .4 and .5! This has remained consistent for the last couple of weeks. Is this normal? Also looking at the E37S and the E37SD they look very similar - they look physically the same other than the collar on the SD vs the hopper on the S. They have the same size burrs with the SD having titanium coated and the S having Stainless Steel. The button and set up are different since timed run makes no sense on the single dose machine. I'm wondering if the S can be modified to have a collar similar to the SD, or maybe even the SD collar will fit the S - Ceado won't even answer my emails and the retailer is worried about warranty issues with modifications. Single dosing not only allows you keep coffee stored air tight till you wish to use it, it also allows you to easily switch up coffee (between regular and decaf, or different beans that you might have a morning preference and like something else after dinner) without wasting coffee.

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The E 37S dos not work well as a single dose grinder. Although you may get the correct dose of coffee, a considerable portion of that coffee will be from the previous grind session= stale coffee. For consistent dose the beans need pressure from the mass of the beans  above .

Alternatively you can exchange the S/hopper for a tube (to fit in the throat) and use a weight to provide the downward pressure.

Single dosing without mass allows the beans to ( popcorn) jump about which gives an inconsistent grind= poor / variable extraction.

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