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Orphan Espresso Lido 2 hand grinder - fine enough ?


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Morning all,

you may have noticed that the OE Lido 2 is now available for pre-order.

 

http://www.oehandgrinders.com/LIDO-2_c_23.html

 

Before I jump in a nab one of these gorgeous looking things, I need to know that it's going to grind fine enough for my Gaggia Classic.

 

I'm only grinding for a double every other morning, 3 on a thursday, maybe half a dozen over a weekend. I'm happy with the labour side of things (should be a pleasure to use), and of course the price when compared to a machine like the mignon (which I'd be saving for if I was getting a machine), but will the Lido 2 go fine enough to be my main espresso grinder?

 

I think it sounds like it will from what I can find out, but I'd like a more-expert-than-me opinion on it first before ordering - just don't all go off and order them and leave me without!!

 

thanks (did I mention it looks gorgeous?!) :coffee:

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I don't think it's actually available yet. Also don't forget taxes and delivery on that price if you're importing. There's the made by knock grinder too which seems to go fine enough for espresso according to some of the guys over on home barista.

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The Made by Knock Hausgrind uses the same burrs as the Lido 1 and 2, is know becoming a known quantity and is made in the UK. As the others have said don't forget that on top of the $175 plus carriage you will also end up paying VAT at 20% and import duty plus a handling charge from the courier or royal mail, and if there are any issues with it you would have to send it back to the USA, and on it's return it could quite likely incur those charges again, whereas the Hausgrind starts at £120.

 

However, you could get a used MC2 for less than either which would be fine until you can afford something better, as long as you didn't need to change grind size between brewed and espresso.

 

Point of interest: the Lido 1 and 2 and the Hausgrind all use the same burrs as an MC2.

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The Made by Knock Hausgrind uses the same burrs as the Lido 1 and 2, is know becoming a known quantity and is made in the UK. As the others have said don't forget that on top of the $175 plus carriage you will also end up paying VAT at 20% and import duty plus a handling charge from the courier or royal mail, and if there are any issues with it you would have to send it back to the USA, and on it's return it could quite likely incur those charges again, whereas the Hausgrind starts at £120.

 

I'm interested in this bit Charlie - hadn't considered the import problems/cost, so that leads me to consider the made by knock grinder.

 

I hadn't seen their website before and didn't realise they did one (I'd just heard of their tampers on here). The price is certainly more appealing, and the wood looks gorgeous. It would fit in my tiny kitchen too !

 

If there is a hand grinder that will grind fine enough for my Classic, then that's what I'd like to go for. Will the Hausgrind do the job?

Once I have it dialled in will it stay put or is it likely to drift over time - I'd keep it just for espresso.

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and if there are any issues with it you would have to send it back to the USA, and on it's return it could quite likely incur those charges again

 

Would they not qualify for Returned Goods Relief as the 'goods' were in free circulation with all duties and taxes paid when they were exported from the EU?

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Would they not qualify for Returned Goods Relief as the 'goods' were in free circulation with all duties and taxes paid when they were exported from the EU?

 

In theory yes it would, but we all know what happens to theory when those money grabbing barstewards get that hands on something for the average person.

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I once ordered an item of clothing from USA and the sizing guide was off so had to return it for another size.

 

Had to pay the UPS driver cash to cover customs and UPS fee of £10 both times. After filling out a long form, providing proof of postage of the return and waiting about 6 weeks I got the original tax back. No refund of the £10 fee.

 

:(

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The Made by Knock Hausgrind uses the same burrs as the Lido 1 and 2,

 

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Point of interest: the Lido 1 and 2 and the Hausgrind all use the same burrs as an MC2.

 

Actually that's not entirely correct, the lido 1 and 2 use different burrs for example, see

 

http://www.home-barista.com/marketplace/orphan-espresso-lido-2-hand-grinder-t27131-110.html#p325724

 

I'm not sure either manufacturer has stated precisely which burrs they use.

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Actually that's not entirely correct, the lido 1 and 2 use different burrs for example, see

 

http://www.home-barista.com/marketplace/orphan-espresso-lido-2-hand-grinder-t27131-110.html#p325724

 

I'm not sure either manufacturer has stated precisely which burrs they use.

 

I know Peter said it was the same as one of the Lido burr sets, I did notice from that linked thread that the parts for the Lido are being machined in China/Taiwan whereas the Knock is being machined by people here in the UK which ,for me, would be the clincher as I'd rather support a homegrown product.

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I thought I read that the Lido 2 burrs were made by Rossi in Italy. Outsourcing to Taiwan is probably inevitable when trying to break out of the niche market to ...er, a slightly bigger, slightly less niche market? ;-)

 

Even with duty & shipping the difference between Lido 2 & MBK shouldn't be big enough to make a significant impact. The Lido 2 holds more beans, but this may not be relevant to most users.

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