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  1. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F362543063927 Currently at £227 with 3 hours to go.
  2. Hi all, I stopped using this machine to properly experiment with V60 and Aeropress, 4/5 months later and I haven't touched it. I was thinking about upgrading prior to this so I think I've just reached the end of the road with it. I've fired it up today and done a thorough descaling and cleaning. Pulled a couple of shots and all seems fine. However, there is a faint steam hiss from inside suggesting one of the 'o' rings is on its way out, once up to full pressure to stops. I have included some 'o' rings and clips that the Coffee Classics guy left me when he came to repair it a couple of years back, having watched him replace one it's pretty easy. It comes with double the accessories in most cases as I sent my original one back to House Of Fraser following a dispute but I didn't include them when returning. I also purchased two Sage bottomless portafilters. So it comes with four portafilters, two milk jugs (one unopened), two sets of baskets (one unopened) plus a spare unused of every tool and the tool tray and a spare group seal which has been used but is fine. I also have the original box and manual. I'll also throw in the Sage knock box. Trying to be completely honest, there are a few minor marks around the machine but overall it looks pretty tidy. There is a little dent in the drip tray and one on the right hand side but barely noticeable, plus a tiny chip on top front of the machine. I don't know if leaving something like this sitting for several months is ok but all seemed fine today apart from the little hiss. It's had nothing but Tesco Ashbeck in it from new. With all that in mind, I think I'm offering it at a bargain of £450 Would prefer collection obviously due to weight and size but would be happy to negotiate a deal involving a courier. Thank, Sean More pics https://files.mycloud.com/home.php?seuuid=4e3b18c897e65a46f831be9652a4e60a&name=Sage&brand=webfiles
  3. BIN price is £700 (which seems good anyhow), but the starting price (if it goes to auction) is £500. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sage-Dual-Boiler-Smart-Grinder-Pro-/162085800468?hash=item25bd110a14:g:xLcAAOSwintXSgYH Good luck if you go for it!
  4. After much deliberation and reading (and re-reading) sooooo many reviews, I decided that I would go and have a look at the Sage Dual Boiler this morning. It may not be a beautiful piece of Italian art, but it seems to tick all the boxes that I have, not least the fact that it fits on the work top and can be refilled without risk of dropping the whole thing on the floor. As recommended, I went to Lakeland, in this case the store in Cheltenham. Despite being on her own and receiving multiple requests for directions to the jam making dept from little old ladies, the sales lady could not have been more helpful. The only one in stock was on display and was still priced at £939.99. Without any need to prompt she offered a 10% discount and told me that the warranty would in no way be affected. As we moved the machine to the counter the lights shining down showed up a couple of very small dents. One on the back wall and one on the front edge. I was just about to ask if they could get another one in when she said that she could offer 33% off. Well, they really weren't that noticeable and she told me that I can always return for refund or swap for shiny new (and pay the difference) if I decided that I couldn't live with them. It took a while to pack up so she decided to offer 40% discount as I had been so patient. That took the total down to £560, inc lifetime guarantee, and white glove service etc.! I stopped to see a friend who does body repairs on the way home and he took out the front dent in about a minute. Can't tell it was ever there. He had a quick go at the other one and improved it but said the panel needed to come off to do it perfectly. Not that fussed, you have to look hard to even see it! Picked up a kilo of Italian Job and was looking forward to an afternoon playing with my new toys (eBay Mazzer Super Jolly collected yesterday), but I have just been told that we are taking the pooch for a walk as it is such a nice day. oh yes, and someone gave me their car park ticket in Cheltenham. Gods must be smiling on me today. hope your weekends go as well.
  5. Hi all, Just wanted to make others aware of my experience of purchasing a used (not refurbished!) Dual Boiler from XS Items. A couple of weeks ago the opportunity arose for me to use a voucher on an ebay purchase. I've been on the hunt for a deal on the DB and wasn't necessarily looking for a used unit. Though when this opportunity arose, combined with a best offer, I could get one of these units from XS Items delivered for £410! So I though it would be worth a punt. Communication from XS was very good and two days later a big box was delivered via DPD. The box was all in one piece with no signs of damage, so i got unpacking. My expectations were not mega-high, though upon opening the box I could see that not much love had gone into packing this up. A few bits of different sized used bubble wrap and loads of shredded cardboard with the unit sitting loose and uncovered in the middle. I'm all up for recycling, though all the fragments of cardboard were dusted everywhere throughout the unit, so was quite a mess in there. Once again, expectations were not high, as this is listed as having the chance of "minor scratches & dents". But when i got it out the box, I was greeted with a VERY heavily warn machine. The main thing that caught my eye was the significant dent in the bottom right corner, under the steam wand. The impact that this machine must have had in it's past was so severe, that the sheet metal had split, exposing a small, but razor sharp edge on the bottom corner!! Exactly not what what you want right next to the steam wand and drip tray, really was an accident waiting to happen! Secondary to this, the steam lever had no weight to it when moved up & down (maybe broken?) and lever was covered in hairline scratches indicating some very heavy usage to me. It also had other dents, scratches and warn decals. But I would say that the later were in line with the description. I didn't even bother plugging it in to see if it worked. This item looked on it's last legs and to me with that piece of sheet metal protruding out, should have been decommissioned on safety grounds. Not sold on for profit! I got straight on the phone with them the next day, very apologetic but asked me to put everything in writing with some snaps. 24hrs later I got a message saying that the item was not in the condition they listed and dispatched it in!? To be fair, they were very polite and said they would investigate fully, but IMO there was zero chance of the item not being like that before they dispatched. (reminder that the box I received in had zero signs of damage.) I have now been refunded for this item, but no word has been said about why i received it in this condition and the apology was pretty weak. Hopefully my experience may be food for thought for other members considering a purchase! I've subsequently plumped for a DB new unit from Lakeland, which I am LOVING . And the risk of getting a serious laceration from the new machine is currently zero
  6. If you need a few spare parts or fancy a project £50 pickup or £65 delivered https://www.gumtree.com/p/coffee-machines/breville-sage-dual-boiler-espresso-machine-broken-/1285582240
  7. I'm just after opinions on both machines if possible from people who have used them. I'm likely to be in the market for an upgrade soon and like the look of both. Obviously there's a decent price difference between the two so I'm just wondering if it's worth paying the extra for the dual boiler. I currently have a 6 year old delonghi which is on its last legs I think. All opinions/views welcome cheers
  8. After weeks of deliberation and research i couldnt be happier with my new Sage/ Eurica mignon set up. Cups and machine arrived this morning. I was set on getting a Rocket appartmento or expobar hx. This week i visited bella barista during which i tried out both machines. On the same day i went to visit @GerryM with his lovely red Sage db. I can honestly say i preferred the coffee from the sage. Decision made. I ordered one that evening and as it was in the sale i had enough for some nice acme cups! Thanks Gerry for your time and coffee! I am sending you some nice PNG Kenta i roasted last night. Here she is...
  9. I'm trying to order "Sage 58mm Naked Porterfilter for Dual Boiler" in time for Christmas, but after 3 unsuccessful phone calls, I only got an explanation that their payment system is down, and that they cannot take any orders at the moment?! I have tried to find out if any other Internet base retailer are selling Sage 58mm Naked Porterfilter, but apart from Amazon.com (they don't ship to UK this particular product), I wasn't able to find any other Internet retailers. Any help/advice where to purchase Porterfilter is much appreciated.
  10. This is a thread for tips and tricks for new owners of the Sage DB (of which there are a few, thanks for Amazon, JL and Lakeland's erratic pricing recently ) I am using the single-wall dual shot basket with Rave Signature. I've upped the temperature by a couple of degrees as I find that Rave Signature often comes out sour at lower temperatures. I need to fiddle with the grind some more too but I'm pretty close. I'd be interested in recommendations for beans that really shine on this machine? Milk is steaming really well. Very impressed by that. How is everyone else getting on?
  11. Dear All, I'm new to the coffee game, using a Sage Dual Boiler + Smart Grinder Pro + scales. I was hoping for tips and advice from you all regarding the ratio's you use to achieve your 'perfect' expresso. I'm still I'm a little confused as I've been reading a good ratio being 1:2, 18g of Coffee to 36g Expresso, but then i've read that a double expresso should equate to 2 fluid oz (56g Approx). Do you guys use the same measure, when pouring yourself an expresso, or when you're pouring a flat white/cappucino? Thanks
  12. I have a two year old sage dual boiler and smart grinder pro for sale. Perfect working condition, cleaned and back flushed regularly. Please note. These were purchased in Australia and have the Bteville branding (sage actually licenses the product from breville in the UK) so they have Australian plugs. The power is the same however so it is just a case of changing the plug or using an adaptor( which I can supply) products are are out of warranty but all spare parts and accessories are available from sage directly. Item is in huddersfield and I would prefer collection but happy to ship at buyers expense. asking price is £600. Less than half the price of a new setup. Cheers steve
  13. I've just got myself a sage DB as an upgrade on my DTP and for the most part its a great upgrade. Steaming milk is now so quick and easy and takes less than 1/4 of the time of the DTP and its much better quality. Steaming and pulling a shot at the same time is also really nice. Its a bid sad but just having a much larger drip tray makes a big difference to me! That being said I am struggling to get a really nice shot from this thing. I have a bottomless PF and the standard 58mm single walled double basket and no matter what I do it pretty much always ends up gushing through after an amount of time. I'm dosing 18g but I have tried up to 20g to see if that made a difference. Firstly, there is a bit of a gap between the basket and the PF around the lip. Probably around 1.5mm. Is this normal? The PF is quite hard to insert and I was wondering if this was why. Its obviously better once its heated up and pulled a few shots but still can be very stiff. The pressure gauge is hitting 10bar consistently which is a bit high isn't it? Is it worth adjusting the OPV to make it max out at 9? Im doing a timed shot at 7s pre-infusion and 23s full pressure just as a starting point but it always blonds and goes very watery too soon (usually after 4-5s of full pressure). I would say that its channelling but the puck looks fine. Would a high pressure cause channelling or make it more likely? I feel like my grinder isn't up to scratch honestly (SGP) but until the Niche arrives I am stuck with it.
  14. Sage Dual Boiler for sale only 10 months old, been very lightly used, 1 cup a day, maybe 2 on some days, all cleaning protocols followed when instructed by the machine, 1 x Descale and a few Cleaning Cycles. All accessories included along with a spare naked portafilter, numerous silver filters for water tank, packet of cleaning cycle tabs. Also for sale a Baratza Sette 270W grinder, works fabulously with Dual Boiler, grinds on weight and time, again only bought it January this year and very lightly used, has had all washers installed so as long as you have a flat surface it’s plug and play, £900 for both, I live in Wigan and am disabled so would prefer to sell to someone from the area, would be able to travel to you or half way if the distance is not too long, as a last resort maybe able to courier.
  15. Stainless steel 58mm bottomless portafilter that helps you troubleshoot dose and grind distribution for a more even extraction (their word not mine, but it's Heston, c'mon). Compatible with the BES920UK £45 inc P&P *images to follow in the morning.
  16. Ok, so I've been playing around with the pre infusion settings on the DB for a while now. My machine is set around the 10 bar mark. To get 9 bar I set the pre infusion to around 90% throughout the entire shot. This seems to work well and the pressure remains fairly constant. I then started going a little lower. At around 80-85% I'm around 8.5 bar; however, around 15 secs in the shot the pressure slowly declines. Any thoughts?
  17. Hi folks, sorry if this is a question that has been answered already, but i'm quite new here! I'm considering buying a Breville DB from an ebay company in Australia as it will be cheaper than UK, even after import taxes etc. The Sage & Breville models appear to be completely identical apart from the branding, can anyone confirm that this is correct?? thanks for any advice in advance
  18. Ok I currently have a sage smart grinder pro purchased new 2 weeks ago, also have a crappy cheap delonghi icona, had it 6 months from second hand only paid £40 for it but want an upgrade. The delonghi makes reasonable tasting shots with unpressurized baskets, but its frustrating having such a tiny boiler and such temperature instability and having to temp surf, and its really frustrating to make a latte for more than one person. I cant decide between Sage duo temp, barista express or double boiler. Budget doesn't matter can stretch as far as the double boiler new. But cant decide what machine would be best for me. I currently favour the barista express as it has the water tap outlet, and pressure gauge and preset volume shots, love the idea of the convenience of preset, also there is the valve that prevents really wet coffee pucks so easier and less messier to dispose the coffee grounds. Plus the machine has a higher power wattage than the duo temp pro. I just wont use the grinder, kind of a waste. I love everything about the duo boiler but have concerns, that its going to be too difficult to descale, and don't want to be having to send it back to sage everytime it needs descaled. Or maybe I should just get the duo temp pro and maybe upgrade further down the line. What I need and want from a machine, to be able to make at least 2 or 3 latte back to back when I have guests over, to be able to make decent tasting espresso once or twice daily and maybe a flat white once per day. Also need a machine that's easy maintained. I know the duo temp pro or barista express probably best for my needs, but I have have the budget to go up to dual boiler. I think I favour the Barista express but at the minute its £170 extra for the duo temp pro compared to duo temp pro, if I am not going to use the grinder are the other features of the machine worth the extra compared to the duo temp pro. I would happily buy the dual boiler, no upgraded needed then for several years hopefully but I just worried, I couldn't maintain the machine with descaling. Or anybody know of a heat exchanger or double boiler that easy to descale in the price range of sage dual boiler.
  19. I've only had my Sage for a couple of weeks but I have got through masses of coffee dialling in. Some favourite beans already emerging. I had the White Gloves Service which was very helpful as being a bloke I'm not too good at reading instructions! One question I forgot to ask is whether there is any difference between the 1&2 shot buttons other than the ability to program different extraction times. From my crude test with the larger basket, and no coffee, the same amount of water emerges with the same time setting. Apologies if this is a stupid question. Many thanks Richard
  20. I've had a duo temp for a few months now and I'm really starting to appreciate the razor. I tested it today by doing my usual filling and tamping and razoring of the portafilter, then weighed how much coffee was in the portafilter. 16g, which seems to be just right. I'm sure it would be more accurate to weigh every shot, but I'm not gonna do that. It's just not practical for me. The downside is that you do waste a bit of coffee. Am I the only one?
  21. Pocket-lint have done an overview of the Sage (Breville) Dual Boiler: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124259-sage-dual-boiler-hands-on-the-heston-blumenthal-coffee-machine Interesting to see how this will sell in High Street retailers.
  22. I have been using my Sage DB for a while now and getting increasingly consistently good results. I purchased some scales and in the double basket, after tamping and using the handy razor tool supplied, I am loading between 20 and 21g in the basket, depending on the bean and grind. I am interested to know if this is similar to other users experience.
  23. Selling my Sage Dual Boiler BES920Uk as i don`t really have time to use anymore for £500.00. I have had it for two year and i bought it when it was six months old. It has been well looked after and has had bottled water used with it, and been descaled and cleaned on a regular basis. The machine is in good working order and has some very small scratches due to every day use. Comes with usual sage tools as pictured. Extras are a VST 18gram basket,Sage mini knock box and a Heft 585 tamper by Knox. Would prefer collection from Reading or could post if buyer arranges courier
  24. Hi Currently breaking in new machine (Sage Dual Boiler) and grinder (Ceado e37s). Have preinfusion set as factory (7secs) at 60%. Dosing 18.5-19g. First drips showing at 11-12 secs and flowing nice and slowly to start. However the flow speeds up quickly and becomes watery. Tried couple of different beans, all suitably fresh. Any thoughts? Thanks Chris
  25. The Italian Classic or the Australian upstart? It should be noted that all the views below are entirely subjective and based on my own particular requirements, likes and general "feel". I have been using the Sage Dual Boiler for a few months now and as I have become more familar with the machine, so the results have got better and better. I was pretty happy with my set up and no sign of upgraditus. But... ...I watched as new shiny boxes were purchased or traded and I looked at my ugly duckling and wondered. Just how would the Sage compare to one of the highly regarded European dual boilers. I was pretty much resigned to keeping it at wondering when an opportunity presented itself last week. Call it a moment of weakness, but I had the cash spare and I was completely confident that I would be able to pass on either machine at purchase price, so I took an educated risk and purchased a Rocket R58 from Simon, a fellow forum member. It was a very enjoyable transaction for which I thank Simon and wish him all the best with his new machine. So, I have had Thursday to Sunday to put the R58 through its paces and compare to the Sage. Looks and Build Quality Not a fair contest. The Rocket is a beautiful piece of equipment. From the slightly rounded edges to the manometer faces, it just looks the business. If I had one criticism it is that the steam and hot water wands look slightly undecided as to where they want to fit best. A bit like an ungainly insect trying to work out a comfortable position for its antennae. The Sage weighs a third as much as the R58 and much of that is down to the plastic construction which is faced with a brushed steel. It looks functional and well designed without being "pretty". It certainly wouldn't look out of place in anyone's modern kitchen, but unlike the R58, it is not going to be the showpiece. Much of the difference in build quality is reflected in the price difference with the R58 typically retailing at about £700 more than the Sage. The winner - Rocket R58. Espresso Testing was done using Foundry Rocko Mountain and Rave Signature. Both machines are capable of producing excellent espresso. They both have excellent temperature stability with the capability of easy adjust thanks to PID interface. The Sage is slightly easier to use as it is built in, but the plug in PID on the R58 is very nice and matches the build quality of the rest of the machine. The Sage allows you to select the temp at the brew head, which is already calculated from the boiler. The R58 uses the boiler temp and a conversion chart in the owner's manual. In the cup, the R58 gave a slightly creamier espresso with better mouthfeel. Both produced a great range of flavours, especially from the Yirg. The Sage perhaps had a touch more acidity, but was running at 0.5degC cooler. I will leave it to the experts to tell me if that could have been a contributory factor. One factor that I should mention is the basket. Both tests were done using the standard double basket. The Sage one was much nicer to use and worked far better with the Torr convex tamper that I was using. Easily remedied by using alternative baskets from VST or similar. The winner - too close to call Milk Steaming Both machines produced very nice microfoam. The R58 comes with two nozzles, both two hole. The Sage has one 3 hole offering. You can adjust the temperature of the steam boiler on both machines and hence the steam pressure available. The R58 has steam to spare and could get through 250ml of milk in quick time. The Sage took a little longer but I found it easier to get a swirl rather than a wave going in the jug. The key difference to me was the lever on the Sage compared to the turn valve on the R58. The former was so much easier to use and meant that I could really control the steam well. A few of the flat whites with the R58 turned out a bit more cappuccino-like as the steam produced a bit too much foam at the beginning. The slightly slower speed of the Sage actually works in its favour and, when combined with the fact that the wand is in the right (preferred) rather than the left, the Sage is my personal winner. Other factors Ultimately a machine has to be right for the user, otherwise it just becomes something that sits there taking up worktop space. This is where some of the little extra features come into their own. Shot timer - it is a very simple feature and one that you think could be easily replicated with the addition of a cheap timer, but the built in shot timer on the Sage is a great little tool and it was missed when using the R58. Volumetrics - the Sage has two programmable buttons which can control volumetric delivery for a single or double, or even a two second flush. It also has a manual button which is essentially the same function as the cam lever microswitch in the R58. Pre-infusion - the E61 pre-infusion requires the machine to be plumbed in with the R58, which I had not done for this test (all fittings are supplied with the machine). The pre-infusion settings on the Sage use both duration and pressure as programmable variables. I have not played around with these much, but other reviews suggest that it is possible to change the flavour profile of the coffee. Water source - both have built in tanks, and the R58 can also be plumbed in as mentioned above. The Sage tank is slightly larger and has the option of using built in water filters. It also has a clever visible guage that is illuminated to show the water level. The R58 will start flashing its green 'on' light if the water gets low. The Sage can be filled from the rear (slide out container) and has a clever pivot wheel to aid access or from the front using the pop up cover. The R58 uses a typical top fed tank which requires the cover to be removed. Cleaning and Maintenance - both are supplied with blanking plates for backflushing. The Sage is a simple rubber insert whereas the R58 has a metal blind basket. The Sage is kind enough to tell you when it needs a proper cleaning cycle run and descaling, and both are largely automated. I do not have much experience with the cleaning of the R58. Wake up facility - the Sage can be programmed to come on at a particular time which is very handy for early starts during the week. It only needs 10 mins to get up to temp thanks to relatively small boiler size and a dedicated heating element in the group head. The R58 certainly took longer to get to temperature but the start up function has been solved by many using a Wemo or plug timer. The Sage will go into standby mode after one hour and turn off altogether after three hours of inactivity. Final conclusions: I am really pleased that I took the time to test the machines against each other. The R58 is a simply stunning piece of equipment and would definitely produce fantastic coffee, but the overall experience has made me realise how much I value some of the user-friendly features offered by the Sage. To me the Sage is like my car. I bought to be used everyday on a one hour commute. It is very comfortable and practical. It is full of nice features like climate control, heated leather seats, GPS and Bluetooth. I drive it about 400 miles a week and wash it about once a month. But it is a Volvo estate, so no thing of beauty. I used to own an Austin Healy 3000 which only ventured out during the weekends in the Spring and Summer. It was an absolute joy to own but I spent more time cleaning it than driving it. Everytime we went out I was a bit nervous of scratching it and refused to park anywhere where it might get dinked by some careless shopping trolley. In short, it was high maintenance. This is where I see the R58. One scratch in the perfect finish and you probably wouldn't sleep for days. So, in case you hadn't worked it out yet. The Ugly Duckling wins the contest for my needs. Sage DB is back in place and as of about two hours ago the Rocket has a new and very happy owner in Bristol. It was pretty much a cost neutral exercise for me and good fun, so happy that I did it, if only as it gave me the opportunity to meet with three forum members who were a great bunch.
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