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  1. Hey All, Purchased my first machine last weekend from a member on this forum. So far I love it! Machine is really easy to use, bottomless portfilter allows me to see all my mistakes (I have made a lot of mistakes) Looking to buy a grinder (Sage Smart Pro) off another member on here. Thank you all for helping in my journey. Cheers, John
  2. So I am just in the process of gathering all the parts to do a DIY PID controller mod to my Classic I know there is a very helpful chap on here who will supply a whole kit - but since I am an electromechanical engineer by trade I thought i really should have a go I'm using a Rex C100 clone for the controller - so 45x45x100mm footprint I would really like something that fits aesthetically with the brushed stainless finish of the machine and as small and unobtrusive as possible. plan to mount it to on the right hand side of the machine. so was initially looking at extruded enclosures - but very little out there that fits the bill size wise. there is this folded aluminium silver painted option which is about the next best I have come across https://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/products/0244134/?grossPrice=Y&cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-PLA_UK_EN_Enclosures_And_Storage_And_Material_Handling_MOB-_-Enclosures%7CInstrument_Cases-_-PRODUCT_GROUP&matchtype=&pla-394256332783&s_kwcid=AL!7457!3!319513463502!!!g!394256332783!&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-c_iBRChARIsAGCOpB0SJIMu8dNPAMTKa5Wq0f3NLWzPfktg3RFqCops2ddJXTPax2307nYaAu89EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds or I thought perhaps to use a 50.8mm extruded aluminium box section, as the controller would be a snug fit and make a simple cover for the rear.... what are you guys using ? photos or links would be perfect
  3. Excellent Condition, Perfect Working Order, used less than 20 times, before i got the upgrade bug and decided to by a Cherub, this little machine makes great coffee with no messing about, it still has 11 Months Warranty left on it. comes with all accessories when new, also i have put a temptag on the milk jug. item will be sent in original box with original packaging, sent by 48hr Courier. Photos Attatched! £230 Delivered, Payment by Paypal Please. or buyer can pay £220 cash on collection from Warrington. item is also listed elsewhere and maybe sold at anytime! PM if you have any questions! Thanks
  4. Does anyone have a wiring diagram / pictures available for modding the Silva V4 with a REXC100 for Brew and Steam control. Also - If anyone has further details on the process for both modding the brew AND steam controls this would really be appreciated I have the following: REX c100 PID with all pins available. SSR 40 DA-AC for brew SSR 40 AC-AC for steam Thanks in advance Tim
  5. After the success of my 'screw in' Pt100 sensor, for the Gaggia Classic and pre 2006 Silvia's - I'm now trying to produce a Pt100 sensor that is embedded within a surface mounted thermostat housing, as used on the post 2006 Silvias. Essentially it's going to be a direct replacement for the cylindrical thermostat, that's held in place with the metal strap - like this (this is a standard Silvia thermostat, NOT my sensor!). I don't own a Silvia, so am initially looking for someone that has one - that either already has fitted a PID (perhaps with a K or J thermocouple) and they want to upgrade to a Pt100 - or they're seriously thinking of fitting a PID in the very near future and needs a sensor - and they would be interested in helping me test the fit and function of this sensor in the Silvia... and in return they'd get it at a good price (£10 shipped). As soon as I have the first sensor ready, then I'll post a pic of it (not that it's very exciting) in the next day or two - but right now I'm looking for an initial beta-test user, and also would like to see if there are others that would be interested in these sensors? I'd envisage a proper production cost being slightly higher than my Gaggia sensor, at £18 shipped. Anyone interested in these - or interested in being a beta tester? Shades
  6. It would be really handy if there was a sticky or similar in the bean sub-forum where people could add their experiences using different temperatures or even ratios. As fun as it is to go on the voyage of discovery yourself sometimes it is better to use a map (saves a lot of beans as well). ps. this is where someone probably directs me to precisely the above, already in existence!
  7. Hi guys, I'm a new owner of a Gaggia Classic. The only other equipment I own is an Aeropress and a Hario Mini Mill. The Gaggia Classic has been fully cleaned and descaled by another user here, he's selling it to me with the OPV mod and a Silvia wand, and unpressurised baskets. And a tamper. So now, I've got temp tags and am considering which milk frothing jug to buy, as I love my espressos and lattes. Quick question, is the PID mod neccessary for good coffee? I'll be buying an automatic plug that switches my Gaggia Classic on 30 minutes before I wake up to heat up the machine. Typically the normal usage will be: I have a double shot espresso early in the morning. Wife has a single espresso about an hour later. I have another double shot espresso or latte in the afternoon/evening. Wife has another single espresso or latte anytime else in the day. So as you can see not heavy usage. Would you recommend the PID mod? I consider myself a relatively hands-on person, I fix the stuff around the house when it spoils and am rather DIY, but I'm not particular good with electrical/electronics stuff, more of a wood/glue/nails/hammer/drill kind of person. I understand the PID mod basically ensures you have the correct temperature all the time, but if in normal usage, you usually ONLY see a maximum of TWO doubleshot espressos made in 5 minutes, then is a PID mod neccessary? Cheers PS: Also quick question, anyone got any good recommendations for a milk frothing jug for the Gaggia Classic? I
  8. As some of you may recall from an earlier thread of mine (a few months ago), I got frustrated when fitting the PID (to my Classic) because I couldn't find a suitable, nice looking enclosure. In the end I "made do" with a black plastic one, and then had to take a dremel to it and hack it around. Everything else I could find was too small, too big, too ugly, too - but just wrong. So - I started the quest to help others in my situation... as these PIDs are 1/16DIN (45mmx45mm) and there just seems to be NOTHING that is currently made (even on eBay or AliExpress, or anywhere) that will allow you to take a PID and drop it into a premade enclosure. Now, after a few months (and even obtaining quotes from factories in the UK that wanted about £100 [seriously] to make these in reasonable quantities), I think I'm there. So - here is my custom PID enclosure, in silver anodized aluminium, with 45mmx45mm cutout in the front and a 10mm hole with rubber grommet in the rear. I'm supplying them with the "stupidly super sticky' double-sided tape to stick them to your machine of choice (or anywhere else you want to stick them!). Some pictures from my iPhone.. I'll try and get some better ones soon... And here's the tape: You can buy something v similar from Auber in the US, for about $25 - but then you have to add shipping, duty and VAT - and you're at around £40+ to get your hands on one in the UK - which is bonkers. So - these are £20 delivered to Coffee Forums UK members. They include the rubber grommet and two strips of double-sided tape (but obviously not the PID shown in some of the photos). I'm happy to quote for International delivery if anyone from anywhere wants one, drop me a PM. This enclosure will allow you to mount the PID using the clips if you mount the case vertically (with the PID inserted as shown in the pic). The PID will obviously fit in either horizontally or vertically, though the clip won't fit - so if you want to mount the case horizontally (for some reason) then you can use tape or velcro or some other fixing method to hold the PID inside the case rather than the clip. If you're truly enterprising, and brave, then it MAY be possible to modify or shave a few mill off the clip (or case) to get it to fit - but I can't recommend that! Anyway, the PID slips straight in and the clip holds it beautifully when it's vertical - which is my preferred way to mount it anyway! If you'd like to order one, then drop me a PM and I'll send you payment details. I have an initial order of "a few" in stock ready for quick delivery. Shades
  9. Hi All Due to an irrational bout of upgrade-itis, and pending collection of my new machine, I am offering my existing machine up for sale (with a small tear in my eye!). Gaggia Classic (Pre-Philips) - very good condition in great working order. Regularly backflushed and descaled. Recent new group gasket. REX C-100 PID modification (with the most accurate type PT100-RTD sensor installed in original brew-stat threaded boiler well) - this allows accurate temperature control of the machine, producing enhanced consistency and control in shots. Also controls steam temperature. It transformed the machine for me and I wouldn't consider a classic without one now to be honest. (The PID mod cost me £60 and many hours of my time to install) Upgraded Silvia Steam Wand OPV Mod done to 10bar Original Double-spout Portafilter (unpressurised) Single & Double Baskets Blank Basket for backflushing 57mm Grunwerg Tamper (this is a little bit small for the baskets, but certainly much better than the plastic tamper which also comes with the package) Original Panarello steam wand should you ever want to refit (doubt you ever would) Original Brew-stat should you wish to reverse the PID (note everything is fully reversible with no drilling/damage etc. to anything, but don't know why you'd ever want to strip the PID out). £150 Collected from Warrington, Cheshire, or Manchester ( where I work), or will hand deliver within 30mile radius of Warrington for free. I am also often in Lancaster so happy to deliver around there as well. Sorry but I daren't risk couriering it due to the PID mod potentially getting damaged.* *To be completely open, earliest collection would be Sunday 5th July evening as I need to pick my new machine up first and I'm away for a short break this weekend.
  10. I have just installed a pid on my classic (sestos one with 25amp ssr with wire thermocouple). I have the thermocouple mounted on the front of the boiler at the bottom as detailed elsewhere on the forum. Pretty happy with it and it wasn't overly difficult to set up considering I have very little electrical experience. Anyway... what temperature setting should I be near? I currently have it set up at 92c. However a lot of other people have it set much higher (around 100c). Any advice on which is correct? Or how I find out what my temp setting should be?
  11. Thought I'd share my restoration project here to maybe inspire some others as well as to get some pointers from Gaggia veterans! I wasn't satisfied with my old Breville BES830XL machine and some searching led me to either the Gaggia Classic or the Rancilio Silvia. After watching a couple of teardown videos on the classic and seeing how mechanically simple the machine was, it was the route I decided to take. I found a used Classic from the late 90's for sale and began the project. To say it wasn't well maintained would be a serious understatement! I forgot to take a pic of the machine prior to tearing it apart, but the gold coating on the case was in pretty rough shape and while it seems some folks like the gold look of the older models, it wasn't my cup of tea! Got the machine torn apart here. The bolts holding the boiler to the group head were seized quite badly. Had to use a torch to try and expand the brass on the group head and then I was able to thread out the bolts with some vice grips attached to them. Here's everything laid out and organized so I don't lose track of things As you can see, the boiler and group head were in pretty rough shape. All metal parts ( boiler, group head, OPV, solenoid valve, etc.) got a nice soak in a citric acid bath and I hand sanded the surface of the boiler down to get rid of the pitting. A little more sanding with some 150, 400 and 800 grit and I got the boiler face cleaned up pretty nice. I also did a bunch of hand sanding inside the boiler I ordered up an ebay gasket set and and got everything back together. Now onto the case. I stripped it down to the bare metal and was contemplating leaving it like this, but there was just too much pitting on the front and in the bottom where the water reservoir and drip tray sit. Painted it a "stainless steel" tremclad colour. Turned out alright. We'll see how it holds up over time. Now onto the next phase. Adding a PID controller. I didn't like the look of the external boxes everyone is using, so I decided to use a small arduino + SSR setup and will keep all of the components inside other than a small OLED screen that will sit outside the case. Here's a shot of the boiler with a thermocouple with M4 threads that screwed into the old coffee thermostat location. Testing out the solid state relay with an arduino board I had already made up for another project. This is what the current arduino board looks like. It's not the final state either, but it's much smaller. As is stands right now, I've got the machine up and running and have been using it daily for about a week and it's been running great. I need to finished up the arduino bit and get it all mounted inside. The PID control is working quite well. I also ordered up a bottomless portafilter from ebay and splurged on a nice VST 18 gram basket. Additional things I have planned. Not all of them are high priority: Create multiple pages for the OLED display and cycle through them Read the status of the steam switch to crank up the boiler setpoint for the steam wand. Either add an analog pressure gauge to the front of the machine or use a pressure transducer and use the MCU and OLED to display it Read the status of the brew switch so that the OLED displays a second timer to time the shots Add a second SSR to PWM control the water pump to add a pre-infusion stage The code running on the arduino is here. I'll keep the thread updated as things progress.
  12. Hello everybody. I've been a lurker for a while but finally joined I thought I posted yesterday but it doesn't seem to have appeared. I've got a Gaggia Classic to which I've added the standard Rancio steam wand and I splurged on a Malkoenig grinder. I also got an Aubin PID sent from America which a friend installed for me after doing one of his own. The new thermostat is installed and the display seems accurately to measure the temperature. However, it only seems to measure the temperature, it doesn't seem to influence it - the kit looks installed correctly and I've fiddled with the settings without much difference. The temperature reduces to 102 then heats for about two seconds which then takes it to about 116 and so the cycle continues - as the video below shows. I'd be very grateful for any advice. [video=youtube_share;5JX_MhjdI3s]
  13. Hi everyone, A couple of weeks ago I had a mishap with my Mecoffee Pid, which sadly resulted in the melting of what I believe to be the switching transistor (though I might be totally wrong, see pics attached). I've tried contacting Mecoffee, to no avail. My only remaining options are either to go for another PID with a better heatsink on the chips, or try a cheaper solution, which would simply mean replacing the melted chip and crossing my fingers that it would pop back to life.... However, since the chip is kinda FUBAR, I can't read the serial number, and there are hardly any high-res pics of the board online from which I could get the model of the wayward chip. Has this happened to anyone before? Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or could someone perhaps post a high-res pic of the board or chip? Huge thanks, Nitay
  14. Hey guys, I upgraded to a Fracino Piccino so it's time to sell my Gaggia Classic. This machine has served me very faithfully for the past year or so, and now it's time to find a new home for it. Most of you on this forum will be aware that the Gaggia Classic is one of the most popular "entry" level home espresso machines that produces a brilliant cup of coffee when handled properly. This particular Classic is also all modded out so it's even better! The mods: OPV (Overpressure Valve) mod set to 10 bar via Pressure Gauge which means it's actually a dynamic 9 bar, as required to meet the "official" definition of espresso Rancilio Silva wand instead of the crappy default steam wand PID mod - A PID stands for Proportional, Integral, Derivative. What that means is that the PID basically sends multiple commands every second to the heating element to ensure that your temperature is extremely precise. A normal Gaggia Classic without a PID will at any point of time have it's temperature range from 85 - 98 degrees or so. To use your machine effectively, you will have to learn to "temp-surf". Long story short: With a PID, you can expect your boiler temperature to always be within half a degree of your desired temperature. You will not need to temp surf - just let the PID do the work! Along with the machine you also get a portafilter with a double spout, a double basket, and a triple basket. I am looking for £200 for this, before shipping. DISCOUNTED TO £180! You are welcome to test it and see it in action at my place if you can make it to M3 Manchester. I also welcome pickup with cash payment. Unfortunately I cannot deliver as I do not have a car. I am happy to post, if you are willing to pay for postage. In my experience postage is usually £14 - £20 depending on the insurance you want, the speed, etc. Please feel free to ask questions!
  15. Probably a question done to death on here but.... Having had a second hand silvia for a few months I am not particularly convinced by the consistency of the extraction and am thinking about installing a PID. But given the expense I am interested in views on the cheaper solutions. The mecoffee interests me but the product seems hit and miss on quality. Be great to get some feedback from those who have used various solutions. Cheers
  16. I am going to be spending a small fortune on a coffee set up later on this year, after my issues with a sage barista express i have decided to the full hog and invest in a quality grinder and espresso machine. I seem to have fallen in love with rockets. The Appartmento been the most likely candidate for me, problem is it lacks PID. Is this a huge issue? Space wise I've measured the width and i could actually go for either the Appartmento or the r58. Obviously the 58 is almost double the price, but comes with dual boiler and PID. If i can get top quality coffee from a Appartmento then i don't see the need to spend an extra 800 pound. I don't want to have to change my machine, so I'm looking to get a set up and work it hard for 5 to 10 years! I'm spending a fortune in specialty coffee shops and more importantly fuel and time to get there to get my fix.
  17. So this is my current set up. Delonghi EC710 and a Sage dose control pro. The grinder is a recent upgrade from a krups blade so i'm still figuring it out. I've been using some coffeemasters super crema and occasionally hit a sweet spot with it. The EC710 i've had for around 5 years and was a gift from my darling. From what I've read online they are deemed to be a bit pants. It's worked for me though. Recently switched out the pinarello for a steam wand off a Silvia and was pleasantly surprised by the improvement. I can actually produce nice latteart milk so that has been fun experimenting. I have also depressurised the baskets and chopped the bottom from off the portafilter. This led to me taking about 30 steps back after I had mastered the machine previous to this, hence the recent grinder upgrade! managed to fit a 0-20bar pressure gauge to this so I can see if i'm anywhere near that magic 9bar I keep reading about. I have also just order a PID off amazon to try and see if it will work and produce a better result. As you may have guessed I like to tinker about with things so this 'old' machine was a perfect excuse to have a play about. Hope you guys like my kit, my wife hates it as it has become a bit of an obsession recently so it would be nice to hear some positive thoughts haha Cheers
  18. I've just finished refurbishing two Silvias. I want to move this one on but not sure how much to ask. I can't find any recently sold Silvias with a Rex PID to guage a fair price. Some details- Its a 2007 V2 Silvia, I have just replaced the element, this involved adapting the boiler to take the early Silvia element that is still available for about £30, future element replacement will be easy. I have replaced all seals and modified the group to take a flush fitting screw (rather than the original screw that protrudes into the portafliter basket and limits the amount of coffee in the basket). The OPV has been adjusted to 9.5 bar. It has a REX C100 PID controlling the brew temperature. It is working well, everything as it should. Lots of photos available. So, what do you experts think?
  19. I am considering buying a new espresso machine for the money I could get from selling my compak e8 and rocket giotto V2. They are both extremely good (and beautiful) pieces of equipment but I am tired with not having a PID. My main issue with the rocket is that it is extremely difficult to get reproducible temp profiles (based on Eric's thermometer readings) affecting the consistency (based on my tastebuds readings) of the shots I am pulling. I think that dual boiler machine with PID could solve this issue. I would use a Pharos grinder as my main espresso grinder instead of the compak. I do not mind using the Pharos as I almost always do 2 shots at a time (for me and my wife), and in case of having guests I have single-dosed Mazzer mini-E with SJ burrs which I normally use for filter coffee. I have no way of plumbing-in the machine so it has to be tank-feed. I rarely do any milk beverages (only sometimes for practice). Vesuvius is my dream machine. It has all I need plus features that I will most likely need after I get what I want now: pressure profiling and auto-on timer. I would have to be on a low calorie diet for a few months to save for the Vesuvius and my wife may not be happy. There is quit a few dual boiler machines with PID below £2000. Do you think it is worthwhile doing this sort of an upgrade or is it my upgraditis? Any thoughts? In case you want to say that it is my technique or coffee that is to blame and not the equipment: I almost always get perfect shots (no channeling and in centre) in naked portafilter with VST baskets. Pressure checked with a manometer attached to a basket. Tamping with joefrex tamper. Alway single dosing. Usually single origin coffee from hasbeen or workshop used between 1 and 3 weeks from roast date, kept in a bag.
  20. The Fracino Piccino is a dual boiler machine, one boiler for coffee and one to provide steam. Made in Birmingham and are very well built and are very well regarded. This machine is very small and compact, barely larger than a Gaggia Classic, it will fit on most kitchen work tops. It is a definite and worthwhile improvement from the SBDU (Single Boiler dual Use) machines such as the Gaggia Classic or the Rancilio Silvia. Tank fed, does not need to be plumbed in. Because the brew boiler uses a bimetallic thermostat to regulate temperature, it suffers from the same drawback of imprecise temperature control and a lag in getting back to optimum temp after use. The same problem afflicts the Classic and Silvia. To improve on this and to give the ability to set the desired output temperature, I have modified the machine to PID control. I have read of other people asking about this modification but don’t know of anyone having ever done it, I’ve read that the factory considered incorporating a PID but there is a lack of space in the case and they thought that it would be too expensive for the machines price point. It can easily be put back to standard if needed. Faults – not many, machine is working well, no issues. There is a 3/4 inch scratch on the ‘power bulge’ on top of the machine, light scratching on some of the rest of the stainless, nothing serious. New group gasket and shower plate. Standard two hole steam tip and a home made single tip, I can provide a blank tip as well so that you can drill it to incorporate any of your own ideas. It is deceptively heavy for its size, cash on collection preferred, I can demonstrate it working. I live near Oswestry on the Welsh border. Local meet up or delivery is possible. I can bring it to Birmingham or Manchester train stations for £15 towards my fare. I don’t like couriers but will pack it up as well as I can if you want to arrange you own courier and insurance – I don’t want to be held responsible when the couriers throw the box about. I am asking £350 for it, I am selling in order to upgrade so if you have a better machine to swap, perhaps needing attention, talk to me. No commercial machines please, I already have an Iberital L’Anna.
  21. I have seen in the Bosco workshop in Naples a Bosco with temp. PID. Can you explain to me, if it makes sense to use a lever machine with PID?
  22. hi, wanted to hear some thought from the fellows who have a PID installed on their Gaggia Classic. i've moded mine today with one (XMT7100, PT100) and here's a video from a shot after auto-tune: as you can see, it starts at 102.5C and after ~17seconds temperature drops to 98.5C and it starts going up. can someone share their experience with PID? maybe it must be tuned more "aggressively" to respond to temperature drop?
  23. Title says it all. Looking for you humble members to weigh-in your opinions for these entry level espresso machines installed with a PID. Which works better for you and why. AK
  24. I have a Miss Silvia with the production date 01/00, which I assume is January 2000. I have read somewhere that machines pre May 2000 do not have the M4 thread for a temperature sensor. So is it not possible to PID it? Or do I just need some other temperature sensor, and if so what kind? Thanks!
  25. Hello all, My first post and sit writing with a cup of Taylors Lava Java filter coffee from my Krups Expresso/filter machine. I have just had a new kitchen/dining room renovation and I'm contemplating buying a new coffee machine. My wife and I are retired but as I mainly worked from home for the last few years I have drunk at least six mugs of filter coffee each day. My background is in automation controls and so I was already familiar with PID control. By this admission you can see that I am leaning toward a high-end coffee machine but still trying to dodge any hype. My question is do most of you start looking at machines that are too complex/expensive before reducing your selection, or do most of you start low then climb to giddy heights?
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