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  1. Hi I have a Sage Oracle touch and am trying to find a suitable 58mm portafilter for it. Unfortunately Sage don’t sell these as accessories in the UK and the US site (which can supply) don’t sell to UK. Can anyone suggest an alternative make that will work with my machine and that’s available in good old Blighty
  2. I’m planning on replacing my old second hand Oracle with a brand new DB but I’m worried I may miss the auto foam steamer thingy. I also like the grind and tamp, but on the other hand with the DB I actually get to use a decent grinder. That’s the main reason for the change anyway. Has anyone done this move and what did you make of it?
  3. I think I need medical assistance. I have had a Sage Oracle for 2 weeks (it cost me £1150) and already Im thinking.....hmmm theres not a whole lot of technical ability needed here - what else should I look too! I did originally buy a sage barista touch but took 2 back as the temp of the espresso was barely 55 C - so decided on the oracle albeit an older model and it was another £350! But - it's a dual boiler. Obviously, I can't now afford to buy much else (that would be madness) but I can't help feeling that I have made a bit of an error with this machine. I just received my first lot of Rave beans today and OMG they are amazing - roasted 2 days ago and the taste is unlike anything I have ever had indoors. So actually it makes good coffee. I could technically take it back to John Lewis but its a huge box! Not sure about that as an option - it is an easy to use machine. Is this a normal coffee journey or am I abnormally obsessing about not being able to dose and tamp? I need the forums collective wisdom and coffee experience. Have I bought the wrong machine? What would be a good upgrade option/s. Thanks
  4. Hi, I’m fairly new to making espresso at home so I’m hoping to get some advice. I have a sage oracle machine and I’m really struggling to get drinkable espresso out of it using the double basket. It’s hard for me to describe the taste but the coffee seems to be over extracted and bitter and possibly sour at the same time - if that’s even possibl?! It’s like it’s picking up all of the sour / bitter and none of the sweetness and nice flavours. I’m using a variety of different beans from Hasbean so don’t think that’s the problem. I weigh the dose in which is usually around the 22.5g mark and aim for 45 out in 25-35 seconds. It’s really strange as when I’m using the single basket I can make espresso which is at least drinkable and sometime quite good. If anyone has any thoughts I’d be very grateful. I know now the grinder is a weakness and I have niche on order. Also if anyone has any recommendations for a bean that is easy to extract for straight espresso and is sweet that’d be great. Thanks Michael
  5. I am new to the forum so hello to all! I am looking to purchase a good espresso machine and was considering some dual boiler ones like ECM, Bezzera, Profitec , Lilet and Exobar. I came across Sage Oracle, which has some good features and a fair price but its built cheap and based on many reviews I read, it brakes down fairly often. This is not an issue for me, if I am able to buy parts. So I just phoned Sage to enquire about some parts and prices and found out that they do not sell internal parts at all!!? I gathered from various posts, many in this community are hands on and are capable of replacing a Vibration pump or solenoid or perform similar repairs. So I have couple of questions: 1. Does anybody know where I can by Sage Oracle parts such as vibration pump, pipes and solenoid? 2. Is it worth buying this thing, given other machines above have a great availability of parts and are much better build quality?
  6. I've just made a coffee and went to purge the steam and it came up with an err message and I can't do anything with the machine. the manual says to phone a number that won't respond until after the bank holiday and now i can't clean the wand any chance this might be an easy fix? An another message on the machine is 'service' so I assume I will need to take it in for repairs
  7. Some great Latte Art skills on display here from Alex Stithies; 2010 Australian Barista Champion. Good for Sage and Breville owners too. [video=youtube_share;wvJ02AJBEG4]
  8. jomo

    Which machine?

    Hi everyone, At the minute I have a built-in Siemens bean to cup machine which John Lewis have agreed to exchange for me as it in unable to heat milk to an acceptable level. I've never been particularly happy with the coffee it produces either. Anyway, I quite like the look of the Sage machines they stock. At first I thought I'd exchange it for the Barista Express and have the difference refunded but after reading more into it, a lot of people are saying the grinder isn't really up to the job so now I'm leaning more to the Dual Boiler and a separate grinder. Would this be a better option than the Oracle as I presume it's grinder may not be as good as a separate one? On the other hand would these machines be overkill for someone who only make a couple of drinks per day (normally latte)? I pretty new to this so any help would be greatly appreciated.
  9. Hi there! I've recently purchased the Sage Oracle after enjoying it when in Sydney last Christmas. I'm no coffee expert, so I was looking for some starter recommendations for fresh bean brands and related Oracle settings (eg grind coarseness, tamp pressure, temperature, etc) for your recommended beans? I generally like mid-strong coffee, but not too bitter or tart. We live in south west London (SW6). Any guidance or suggestions hugely appreciated! P.
  10. Treated myself tot he new pro. It looks great. Problem I have there seems to be a fault with the PID it wont heat past 72 but the water is scalding hot. so 72 is really 92/3. Bit annoyed didnt even get to make a single brew out of it. Obviously will be onto them tomorrow, anything noddy I can check ?
  11. I've had my Sage Oracle for almost a year now, and I have to say, the coffee it makes is very good. You just need to spend some time adjusting to your tastes. It is also very sensitive to the quality of coffee beans you use: type, freshness etc. So a lot of adjustments even if you use the same beans but a "new batch". My problem really is from the error messages that I get. Change Filter, Service, Descale. These started to come up after a week of use so initially I thought nothing of it and followed instructions accordingly. However subsequently when it reappeared again after a short time I called it in (as it is still under warrantee) and an engineer was dispatched. To cut the story short, I have had quite a few visits, but the issue never got resolved. I have even had the machine taken away to be tested but the service people couldn't replicate after they reset the machine and tested at theirs for a month. When the machine was returned to me, I get the error messages popping up again after a few days use. The last resort was to change the machine altogether, but this still didn't resolve my problems. Same tests were made on the second replacement machine but the error messages that pop up could not be replicated at the service centre, just at mine. I have had my machine returned to me, the engineer whom I got to know by now, and myself noted that there were no error messages on receipt of the machine. However all messages popped up again the following day. My final test: I followed the instructions to reset the machine, put a surge protector on the machine, but unfortunately I still get the error messages popping up - incidentally the messages can be random, all coming up, or some coming up but always at least two error messages. Any ideas? Anything else I can test? Is there a different/more thorough reset I can do to test out with the surge protector? It is all very frustrating! The coffee produced is fine, just the annoying error messages!
  12. Hi all, my first post on this forum having read a ton of useful stuff in the last couple of weeks. My my old bean to cup delonghi died a fortnight ago and, looking for something better, I stumbled across the Oracle. It looked ideal as a way of getting better coffee without necessarily giving up all the convenience of the old machine. Unfortunately I've been really struggling with it! I just don't seem to be able to get any consistency out of it... Initially when pulling shots by the standard time settings I was getting really sour, unpleasant coffee. I was trying ancoats warehouse city blend (roasted ten days ago) - 22g coffee, 30 secs total brewing time (including 9 secs pre infusion), yielding 48g espresso. From the stuff I'd read that should be ok but it was undrinkable, really odd smell and horribly sour. I read about someone trying a 3:1 extraction so thought I'd give that a go and actually preferred it so thought I'd give the volumetric settings a chance. Had to change beans to Has Bean jailbreak as I ran out of the ancoats (I've wasted a lot of coffee in the last week!). Last night pulled a few 62g shots in 32-36 seconds which were nice, probably the best I've made. This volume has been saved to my oracle's two cup button so I thought all was well... then i I got up this morning! Without changing a single thing the two cup button gave me the following shots: 20g in 16 secs 40g in 20 secs (both horrid) 49g in 24 secs (better and made an ok latte but still not as good as last night) whats going on??? Only thing I can think is the volumetric part isn't working properly as the shots we're so far apart. I've not had the white glove service yet so will get that booked but wondered if anyone had any suggestions in the meantime?
  13. ronsil

    Looking good

    A very sweet Coffee Compass Hill & Valley out of the Oracle this morning. Probably the best espresso delivered todate. Combination of things really. H & V roasted on the 16/Jun/16 so now 19 days after roast the Beans at their best. Built-in grinder set to 13 on the dial - Time set to 34 seconds including 8 secs pre-infusion Brew temp up a little to 94C. The set 21 grams in delivering 38 grams out. With these parameters its mighty similar to using the EK for these Beans. Lighter roasts would be a different story. Really enjoying using the Oracle. Requires care & attention but the results are very worth while. Moving on to a really dark roast later today. Some of Coffee Compass mahogany roast. I've contacted Sage to get a price for replacement burrs because I feel I'll be wearing them smooth quite quickly using my now preferred method. After each session I run out the remainder of anything left in the hopper & clean off the tamping gadget. This means the grinder has nothing to grind at the end so I feel I take the risk of wearing the burrs quickly. I only put into the hopper the approx amount of beans I currently need i.e 43 grams for 2 drinks. 64 grams for 3 drinks & so on. Wasteful,I know but very worth while to get the very best out of the Machine. I also use 2 small bean bags in the hopper to keep weight on the Beans.
  14. Have permission to get a nice, easy to use machine for the new kitchen. Will mainly be used for lattes, so auto milk is an essential. Not fussed about the auto tamping on the Oracle, but the mrs won’t go for anything much more complicated, so rules out a separate grinder and a Rocket or anything. Has anyone gone from an Oracle non touch to a Barista Touch, or vice versa? With the Sage rebate and Easter offers, the prices are basically the same. Is the older Oracle better with the dual boiler, or the newer Barista Touch? Like the fact the Oracle can be programmed on in the morning, but the BT is good to go in 10 seconds so hardly an issue. (Have searched the forum but couldn’t see any threads apart from BT vs Oracle Touch)
  15. I've been using the Sage Oracle for the last month on factory default settings. 7s pre-infuse time, 30 seconds total extraction. Tried various grind settings from 21 to 25 with different beans and can never increase/slow the drop time above 8s. If I lower the grind too much, the flow intermittently stops or slows right down. I can get 30ml extraction x 2 shot and honey colour crema flow usually between 7-8 seconds drop time. Just curious why the recommended drop time is 9-14 seconds and why I cant get within this range? Only tried various supermarket beans so far including Lavazza Rossa. I'll get round to buying some local freshly roasted beans soon, but would like to confirm if the above sounds normal with Lavazza? Or a workflow/ procedure how to go adjusting pre-infuse and extraction times to get the optimum extraction for the bean whether supermarket or local freshly roasted date. I bought the machine second hand, everything appears to work fine, but wonder if any issue with the machine or inadequate cleans and descales in the past may or may not contribute to the above? Any guidance appreciated or please share your experience with the same machine and supermarket beans, thanks.
  16. Hi, there is this coffee shop where I get great Flat White. I bought their beans so I could try them with my Oracle (the original one) but results are not satisfying. I already wasted all the beans, now bought new ones and there are suggestions on the package. I really need your help. This is what is says on the package: 1. For the preparation of a double espresso on a porta filter machine we recommend a brewing temperature of 93 ° C. (check) 2. with a dose of 21g ground coffee (check) 3. and a brewing pressure of 8.5 bar. (how would I adjust the bar??) 4. The brewing time should be about 35 seconds 5. and make a drink with a weight of 40g espresso. (they say weight 40 g, but they surely mean 40 ml right? A double espresso shot?) AND: to what degree would YOU adjust the grinder in the first place when using new fresh beans? Your help is highly appreciated!
  17. Hi all, I recently acquired an Oracle (non-touch) and am having trouble getting any real texture into the milk, possibly since doing a descale? Would someone be able to do me a huge favour and record a video of their Oracle steaming a glass of water on the cappuccino setting so I can see if mine is adding the correct amount of air? Thanks in advance!
  18. My Oracle arrived yesterday (non touch) and I’ve been playing with it a bit since then. My aim is to use this thread as a bit of a log of what I discover about using it, good and bad, problems/questions I come up with and also successes. So the initial set up is a doddle, unpack, read quick Start guide and within 20 minutes it’s heating up for the first time and filling the two boilers. As with other sage products I’ve seen it’s very well packaged and very user friendly in its design and style. I feel their user videos on YouTube are over simplified however but I’ll get to that soon. First double shot I made using their default setting was actually pretty nice; nice enough to drink anyway. The default is grind setting 30, 7 second pre infision and a 30 second total shot time (including the pre infusion). I didn’t weight the output as I want to learn to use the machine as it was intended to begin with. Made a a couple of flat white/latte hybrids and they were good. On first inspection the milk texturing is excellent and fool proof. This was one of the things I was keen on and I’m glad to see it’s as good and easy as it looks on the videos etc today i I made a double first thing with no changes to yesterday’s settings and it was very sour. Set grind a bit finer and tried again, still sour. Decided out of interest to weigh input and output just to see what I was dealing with. Input is a dose of 23g +\- 0.2g and this seems consistent with this bean anyway. Output on the default settings was 24g...so that’s 1:1 ratio. No wonder it was sour! However the numbers fell within their guide. First espresso should flow between 9-14 seconds. This did, they all have but still not right. I see two options, mainly due to the fixed dose, pull it longer and or change the grind. I think the grind is about there so pulling it longer to increase the brew ratio to 2:1 is my first plan. Another however, however. The puck has a pretty good imprint of the shower screen on it post shot. Is this an issue and causing poor water flow? I can’t change the dose but I can change the tamp pressure and duration. I can also change the pre infusion time. Could it be too long at 7 seconds and causing the puck to swell up too much too soon? Ive got in touch with sage today to book the white glove set up. I’m going to use my experience so far to explain to them where I am with it and I’m really interested to see what they suggest. For now I think I’m going to hold off using it until they have been (I won’t I’m impatient) as I do want to try and use it as intended as much as possible. Not really looking for answers to any of my questions above, more using this as somewhere to dump my thoughts and findings to refer back to but always happy to hear any advice from other users.
  19. Hi guys, After my last thread about my Oracle and subsequently having to get it replaced I figured I would start a positive thread. Due to the issues I was having with mine I done a lot more research and got a lot of good advice so I thought it would be good for me to share some of the things I've learnt during this time and give an opportunity for everyone else to do so. Most of the things I've found have been somewhat described in the manual but not really fully explained so with a bit of trial and error I think I've managed to work them out and hopefully this thread will save anyone who's just bought one a bit of time. Starting with the process in which I now make a coffee, this method I've found gives the most consistent results. - Allow the machine to heat up fully after starting. - Run a full empty shot through the portafilter into the cup to be used (I find this saves on water for preheating the cup and the portafilter and allows you to ensure that everything's clean) - Purge steam wand (If using). - Remove portafilter from the grouphead and thoroughly dry with a dry towel. - Start steaming milk. - Grind beans. - While grinding run a shot for about 5 seconds to make sure everything's clean. - Empty pre-heated cup (Very important ) - Insert portafilter and lock. - Insert cup and scales and pull the shot. - Remove portafilter, knock puck into the knockbox and rinse using the double shot button (Find this useful as it saves water and makes sure you remember to run clean water through the group after every shot) - Place portafilter back in grouphead, if making another I will run a full shot through into an empty cup again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another tip I have found but couldn't find too much info about was the time vs flo setting on the machine for shot duration, this has made the single biggest difference in automating my shots. This is changed in the main menu when the machine is off. It's a case of changing the shot volume from time to flo. You then must go into the menu when the machine is on and set the shot volume. I done this using scales for a 1:2 ratio (The Oracle doses ~22g so I aim for 44g out). The issue I was having with using the time method is that the variation in shot time would differ and would cause me the have to watch the scales and try to stop the machine at the right point everytime whereas the flow method seems to adjust the time to suit. I'm usually within a few grams of the 44g target using this method and time varies from about 27 seconds to 32 but the machine will stop it perfectly every time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The top burr of the grinder can be changed. The factory default is set at 6 out of a possible 10. To change it manually you have to removed the silver handle and the burr will just turn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To clean the burr I have found a technique that works well for me. - Remove hopper and clear any whole beans away from the top burr. - Insert the grinder and flick the switch to actvate (You'll need to press the button on the back of the grinder with something small (Allan key fits perfect) *Pressing the button on the back is probably not the recommended way to do this but it saves having to empty the hopper of beans and then re-install it to have to remove it again* - Run the grinder until empty (Cover above the grinder hole with your hand or you'll get bean fragments everywhere. DO NOT PUT YOUR HAND NEAR THE BURRS. - Vacuum everything (I use a cordless vacuum with the nozzle attachment. Vacuum the burrs throughly then clean everything wotht the supplied brushes and then vacuum again. - Clean everything else as normal. - I generally remove the shower screen every few days and give it a rinse. Any other tips and tricks would be great to add to this thread. Thanks
  20. I've already emailed Sage about this to see what they say but figure it can't hurt to get a second opinion. My Oracle doesn't seem to be grinding fine enough for what I expected. During my white glove service I was using Rave Italian Job but Steve (CC Barista) didn't seem to be able to get it fine enough either and it was over extracting by quite a bit. He changed over to the CC Barista Guatemalan coffee and with the grinder set at 8 and a 30 second extraction, this made the perfect shot. This coffee was a bit dark for us and when I went on the website it says it's for filter coffees and cafetieres, not espresso. That and the delivery was expensive so it wouldn't be a viable option to use this. I've been trying to replicate these results using more Rave coffee, roast dates vary from about 4 days old up to a max of about 9 days and it all seems to be much the same. I've got the grinder set on 1 and have even removed the burrs and manually turned them to fine a notch (Out the box they were set at 6, now they are at 5) and it still seems to be over extracting. I'm getting about 70 - 80mls for a 30 second shot with the grinder at its finest setting. I'm assuming Rave coffee should be a good coffee to use as I know it's quite popular on here. I asked Steve about the low grind numbers and he says it varies from machine to machine. My thinking is that I would like it somewhere in the middle (About 20) and that would give me the option to go up or down depending on what beans I'm using and accounting for changes over time as the beans age. My puck is usually dry after extraction, sometimes there is a small area of surface water but not a lot (Steve adjusted the dosing as he said it was a bit wet). I've tried adjusting the tamp settings but this results in the puck breaking up rather than coming out whole and didn't make much difference to the coffee. All settings are stock on the machine apart from the grind settings. My workflow is as follows, Turn machine on, fill cup with hot water to pre-heat, run a sink shot through the porta-filter to heat everything, purge milk frother, start steaming milk, remove portafilter and dry, grind, put porttafilter in grouphead and extract. Does anyone have any advice?
  21. I am after a naked portafilter for my Sage Oracle! If anyone has on or a normal one that I can get machined then let me know
  22. I recently purchased the Oracle by Sage. As I posted in my introduction post, I am not new to coffee but I'm new to good coffee. On this thread I intend to log my progress, good, bad and ugly. I hope to create useful dialogue between sage and non sage owners to try and improve my skills and enjoyment whilst giving others an idea of the pros and cons of the machine. I'm sure all machines have quirks and as I improve it will be interesting to see what this ones are. I'll attempt to give as much information as I can, with reference to dose (it can vary slightly with this m/c I have noticed), yield (I'm thinking best by weight), shot time, maybe length if time machine has been on, coffee beans, age etc etc. Basically a thorough overall view of coffee making on this machine. I have only tried a few shots so far and I'm currently on holiday so not much in the way of brewing at the moment but all that will change on my return to the Uk. Maybe I should start the next post off with some of my initial thoughts on the Oracle... trying to be as objective as I can! Then, in a week or so's time I will begin a log of my brewing experience and also my thoughts on sages WG Service which I will get booked in during the next week or so. Hopefully it will be of interest to people! It will be a good outlet for me, my wife is sick of hearing the words coffee and espresso and is certain I am crazy, something I don't deny. Thanks for taking the time to read and if anyone has any suggestions on things to include in the log feel free to shout up as it's a blank canvas at the moment!
  23. Had my Oracle for around 1.5 years, always use fresh beans bought from a local Cafe Roma, consistently fresh. The grinder used to be set at 25 or so to get a good espresso. Now it's down to 14 and still often pours too quickly, too much. Any thoughts on what is going on? I'm still under John Lewis 3 year extended warranty but thought I'd ask here before calling in the support. Thanks.
  24. My friend has had his Heston blunenthal sage (oracle) machine a few weeks and no matter what coffee he uses, the shots come out sour and bitter tasting. He he runs his machine as follows: 25 second double shot pull after 5 second infuse, Shot temperature is at 93c Grind setting is at 29 and he uses 20g of coffee for a 60g double. can anyone shed light on why this is happening?? He's using fresh coffee and here's a link to the blend he currently uses: https://www.ovenbird.co.uk/shop/dead-poets-society-blend/ thanks in advance!
  25. Made up my own blend of 1 kg Jagong Village well mixed with 500 gms of Monsooned Malabar. Used beans from Rave who seem to take the MM a little lighter than I normally buy. A great combo for the Oracle. 21grms in 48 grms out. Grind set to 11 Shot temp 93C Tamp at mark 7 pressure 8 secs pre-infusion 35 seconds total delivery. Great for Americano with shot set to 48 grms & total with hot water set to 112 grams. I have found the built in Americano recipes are set to fill buckets. Way too much water added Did a similar method using the EK & results remarkably similar. As expected the EK did show a bigger initial burst of flavour & longer sweet aftertaste. Difficult to have regrets with the Oracle. I'm finding that with extreme care & acceptance of a fair amount of waste keeping the grinder clean & fresh it is well exceeding my expectations.
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