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  1. First post and just joined so go easy on me. I've got a £250 John Lewis voucher sitting here. Would I be better off buying a Duo Temp Pro and separate grinder (Sage Smart Grinder Pro or better) or buying the Barista Express? From reading online it seems having a separate grinder is better and have read some reports of the integrated grinder not being that great and performing a bit under par after a year or so. I am not an expert by any means but have been using the AeroPress for two years now and am constantly learning things from watching a channel called Seattle Coffee Gear on YouTube. I know about pre-infusion, portafilters, pressurised and non-pressurised baskets and I feel ready to try a machine and learn more. The voucher won't cover all of it either way so: The Duo Temp Pro (£199) + Smart Grinder Pro (£144) will cost me £343.00 The Barista Express would cost me £399.00 Bambino is sold out at John Lewis as VERY popular but they are back in stock on 13th. Should I wait for this? The difference in cost is not an issue and countertop space isn't either! I know someone asked this very same question at the end of 2018, just wanting a fresh opinion! Thank you in advance
  2. What is the hot water option on the DTP actually for? Can you use it on the daily for a cup of tea or is that not a good idea?
  3. It seems like only yesterday when I joined the forum and asked whether to get the DTP and separate grinder or get the BE. Oh wait, that's because it was. I collected the Duo Temp Pro which I reserved last night! Added a couple of pictures for you, thanks for all the advice guys! Don't worry, I'll be asking for plenty more of it Routine kind of went like this: Unpacked Immersed filter for 5 mins, washed out water tank etc Purged machine as per manual Used a flathead screwdriver to pop out that nasty plastic disc Sage put in the portafilter. Yuck. I think it's for the pressurised double wall? Sadly I do not have my grinder yet, so I have committed coffee sacrilege and sin tonight, just to have a go. I used the pressurised double wall with some pre ground Lavazza and had a go with the milk. As you can see, I definitely did not achieve Latte art. Not the prettiest looking cup ay. For pre ground coffee, the second shot I pulled wasn't too bad. First shot was awful For a beginner I'm pretty excited, lots to learn. I put the frothing pitcher in the fridge for 15 minutes, the milk was cold too so I'm not sure where I went wrong with the milk. It was semi skimmed. Anyway any tips on where to go from here would be super appreciated!
  4. Due to a recent upgrade for a Rocket R58 I am now selling my 1y old Sage Duo Temp Pro. It was bought at Lakeland so I believe there is ~2y of warranty remaining. As you can see from the pictures it is in great conditions except for the usual light marks on the dip tray and in front of the machine. I took all pictures with the DTP below 3 LED spots to highlight these but in real conditions they are not that obvious at all. I just could not show them otherwise. This DTP has been used for 2 cups/day and was only filled with Ashbeck water. I descaled it a few times but never saw anything coming out of it so I'm quite confident to say it is in great condition. It comes with everything you can see on the picture which came with the DTP (Tamper, PF, cleaning tools, 4 baskets, razer dose trimming tool, etc.) as well as a naked PF with a wooden handle. I am asking £160 for it, I live in London and would prefer collection in person
  5. I've recently bought a used Duo Temp Pro, and I have a question about the water filter: if I already have a Brita water filter jug, do I still need to replace the water filter inside the machine? On the instruction manual I believe it says to use fresh water every time the machine is to be used, so if I fill the water tank from my Brita jug, I take it the water filter inside the Duo Temp Pro is useless?
  6. Hey guys, I can get the Sage Duo Temp Pro or the Lelit PL41TEM (PID) at the same price, around €350 (new), which one do you think is best? I don't live in the UK so it's hard to get a good deal on a second hand here. Also considering an Oscar2 (€700) but have concerns on it's durability (uncased motherboard) and not sure if it's worth double the price. Would be using it for 2 espressos in the morning, 2 lattes in the evening. Looking for something that would last a few years with little maintenance (only things that a normal person would be able to do without special tools). The grinder is going to be the Niche Zero. Thanks in advance!
  7. Hey guys, I currently have a nespresso, I really want to get into the espresso hobby and I have been reading a lot for a few months while I have been looking for a good deal on a coffee machine. I don't live in the UK and here in Portugal is not that easy getting used machines or even good brand new ones. I have been waiting for the Duo Temp Pro to be on sale again, but yesterday I found a used La Pavoni Professional with around 5 years and seems to be in perfect state and has been serviced a few months ago for £175, which seems like a great deal. I have been reading on it and since I work at home so I have time to do the extra work that a manual machine requires. My budget for the grinder is around £160, so I was thinking about getting a Smart Grinder Pro from lakeland. Will that be a good enough grinder? I would like a grinder that would let me grind for pour-over also if possible. Thanks in advance!
  8. I used my new DTP for the first time yesterday. As I do not have a grinder yet and have some pre-ground I thought I would try it to see what it was like. I know 99%+ of people on the forum have a grinder but I was hoping some people would have experience with pre-ground. The DTP comes with pressurised and non pressurised baskets. I have some illy and some lavazza rosso and found the illy too fine for the french press but the lavazza worked well. I tried the illy with a pressurised basket and it was ok but has anyone tried pre-ground in an un-pressurised basket?
  9. With the discussion on the Bambino I thought I would ask what the DTP comes with i.e.: 1. Baskets - High/Standard pressure or both? 2. Plastic disc device in portafilter? 2. Any other items that may need discarding/changing on day 1?
  10. Hi, thanks to reviews on here I have just purchased a new Sage Duo Temp Pro, an upgrade from a Delonghi Icona. I debated the Rancilio Silvia for a bit but based on opinions here that I would need to spend money on a good grinder I decided my budget was better spent on the Sage coffee machine and a grinder rather than blowing it all on a Silvia. Plus I like the idea that the Sage will ease me into using non-pressurised baskets. I use fresh roasted beans that I buy direct for a roaster in Cork called Badger and Dodo, I love their Jam Jar blend (unfortunately they don't ship to the UK.) I currently have a Delonghi KG79 grinder that I hacked to make a finer grind but I'm mid researching which grinder to buy. So please feel free to send me your recommendations, from what I've read so far I'm leaning towards a secondhand Mignon as I'd would ideally like to spend about €250/£200. I've looked at the Graef CM800 but I'm not sure it's worth it if an extra 50 quid would get me something far superior.
  11. Hi all, Looking to buy my first machine and I'm thinking of the Sage duo temp pro. Is this a good plan?
  12. I'm pretty set on the idea of a DTP but should I be looking at the Gaggia Classic too?
  13. Hi all, Has anybody experienced their DTP steam wand spluttering/squirting water when initially starting the steam. I notice this frequently, and how the steam doesn't seem very consistent in that you can see almost like the pressure is dropping at points when the steam is active. I have run a tank full of water through and have ensured the nozzle has been fully cleaned. Could a seal or possible some other part be failing inside the steam mechanism? Many Thanks, Josh
  14. New DTP and SGP owner here.. I have had the DTP a couple of weeks now and originally was using it with my hario mini.. 5 clicks would choke the machine unless tamped really lightly and 6 would run a little too fast tamped firm, 18/36 in about 20 seconds with little crema.. still tasted good though. So I decided to upgrade the grinder and went with the smart grinder pro. Playing about with the grind setting and I am currently on setting 2 with the top burr adjusted to 5 which is giving me 18/36 in about 27 seconds. Better crema although tastes a little sour. My only concern is.. from reading around a lot of people seem to grind anywhere from setting 5 to 7 for espresso.. being at setting 2 already with the inner burr adjusted 1 step finer means over time as the burrs wear i am going to have to adjust the machine finer right? Setting 2 doesn't leave a lot of room to go. Beans are fudge blend from Rave and are 2 weeks old after roasting. Tried with mocha java also. Same roast date. I realise grinders vary and I will order some fresh beans to try after 1 weeks rest.. but is that a low starting point? Should I exchange the machine? Just to add.. tamping firm and consistent until the puck stops. Breaking clumps with a cocktail stick, tapping the porterfilter and the machine, cup and porterfilter warmed up. Also scales weigh to 0.1g. Thanks.
  15. So 18 months after buying my Duo Temp Pro isn't producing enough pressure to extract coffee or froth milk. Any advice?
  16. Hello All New user and second thread already - hope no one minds! I am now considering between two options. I only intend to drink espresso and occasionally have a latte / cappuccino - I will not be using a French Press or anything else, just the machine. 1). Duo Temp Pro alongside a Eureka Mignon. Advantages: - Better grinder. Disadvantages: - None of the advantages below. 2). Sage Barista Express. Advantages: - Pressure Gauge (potentially useful to someone who is new). - Greater variability for PID than DTP. - Better aesthetics (in my opinion) - Able to do dosed shots (nice for ease of use). - Less room taken up than DTP & Eureka Mignon (footprint is important, though the DTP & Mignon is not too large). Disadvantages: - Grinder not as good (whilst only one disadvantage, this possibly outweighs all the other advantages. Though if I only intend it for espresso - will it make much difference?) If anyone could give me their opinions on this it would be very much appreciated - they both come to a similar cost. Thank you.
  17. Ordered via Lakeland and after a few conversations around the delivery, it arrived today! Unboxed and in place awaiting essential accessories before commissioning and trying to pull a few shots! Even bought it its own table to sit on and now need to customise to make it sort of waterproof! First thoughts - All non-use thoughts so far! Its very light considering the size of the box. Its well packaged. It looks quite slick! Criticisms - All minor and due to it being new to me! Stainless front panel quite wavy; where buttons sit and possibly due to the pressing process? Drip tray front has equidistant dents left and right hand side; again expect due to manufacturing. Water tank opening action is stiff which makes you too careful in case of breakage! Needs some force as it clips in etc! Leads me to believe that all Sage Marketing shots have been Photoshopped smooth a la Supermodels! If anyone reads this and uses Lakeland, they use My Hermes for delivery and their contract is not great; meaning - the courier will attempt to deliver 3 times and then its sent to the depot and back to Lakeland. You cannot pick up from a depot or speak to My Hermes and rearrange a collection from a depot or a delivery to another address differing to the address as detailed on the order. Fortunately, My Hermes called me to say they were at my address and I was able to get back after they left it hidden upon agreement. Make sure you are in! Lakeland also stated that the courier would mail and contact the day before. They do not. They called whilst sitting at my address. The journey begins! Grinder research; Scales, Tamp Mat and knock box to order now. Oh - must not forget the beans!
  18. Evening all - nearly a SAGE newbie here! After reading as much as I could find and watching videos, pushed the button on my first proper machine away from stove top/ nespresso today. DTP from Lakeland at just under £250.00 but waiting on stock. Had a few chats with various outlets and Lakeland could not confirm that the price would stay at £250.00 unless ordered for home delivery and added to their system as a back order; so did just that! Had some great advice from a local Roaster - HasBean; and decided the SAGE would enable me to learn with a decent level of features. Want to understand and play around with whilst I gain knowledge. Also - will enable me to move away from the Nespresso and sell it as soon as I can deliver an OK espresso. Ready to use time was a big factor over other manual single boiler units. DTP made sense but will possibly buy an old Classic in future? Grinder/ Scales next thing to find and research begins as soon as machine arrives! Will use pre-ground for a time. If theres anything I need to watch for with the DTP, please leave a comment. Any advice is appreciated.
  19. So I looking to upgrade my crappy Delonghi Magnifica ESAM4200 and I've decided to go the Sage route. I don't have a budget, but I do like good value for money and hate diminishing returns. My options are... For value Barista Express Duo Temp Pro+Smart Grinder Pro Higher end Dual Boiler+Smart Grinder Pro The Oracle The dual boiler and the oracle have lots of parameters to play with compared to the cheaper options, but will they make a big difference to the end result, the fixed dosing of the oracle puts me off it a little.
  20. donblacc

    Sage Duo Temp Pro

    Due to a change in travel plans, it seems I'll be out of the country longer than expected. It would be a shame to keep this beauty in storage.. so she is up for grabs to one of you lovely lot! As the machine is literally around 3 weeks old, I will be looking for £280. It comes fully boxed with all included accessories such as razor tool (never used), all filter baskets, milk jug, original tamper etc. As well as the warranty. I will also throw in a weighty Motta tamper, with tamping mat and an extra smaller milk jug as shown in the picture. Collection is preferred, from SE London area - or I could delivery locally, if required. Cheers guys,enjoy the weekend!
  21. I bought this on the 23 May 2017 and have been really pleased with it. I've made between 2 and 3 coffees per day and have replaced the filter and descaled last week and backflushed with a cleaning tablet a few weeks ago. The reason I am selling is because I was so pleased with this Sage machine that I decided to upgrade straight away to another Sage machine, the dual boiler. The price is £190 to collect but I will post but would have to pass on the postage costs, Hermes are quite reasonable. Payment by Paypal. I live about 10 miles from Doncaster I've contacted Sage re the guarantee, whch is two years and they say that whoever buys it can take over the guarantee as long as they have proof of original purchase, which I have and will give to the buyer. I've attached a photo, just ask if you want any further info. Teresa x
  22. Hi, For anyone interested, I'm selling a new 54mm Sage Bottomless Portafilter, ordered from Sage and hand machined for £46.50. These have a unique group fitting, only for use on Sage and Breville 54mm coffee machines like the Duo Temp Pro. I believe it's also compatible with these machines... BES810, BES840, BES860 and BES870. Please check compatibility with your machine though. A friend of mine with a Sage Duo Temp Pro expressed a lot of interest in having a bottomless portafilter like the one I was using on my Rocket. Without thinking I sung the praises of bottomless portafilters... They're great for figuring out how to make fantastic shots, diagnosing shot issues and the coffee only ever touches your basket and your cup. Once you've got your shot dialled in, there's less cleaning and dripping over your worktop, and of course... it's a unique and enjoyable way to make coffee. However, the small flaw in my sales pitch came about when he mentioned that he'd looked everywhere and Sage and Breville only sell a bottomless portafilter for their top of the range 58mm machines, and the only way to get a bottomless portafilter for the unique 54mm group head was to buy a custom made one or make one yourself... So weeks later, and more conversations about bottomless portafilters, I decided to surprise him and order a new portafilter from Sage, and machine it myself as I fortunately have all of the metalworking tools required. He was blown away with the result, so mission successful, and he suggested that I sell these online as there are probably others like him. So here we are!
  23. I want to remove this... I've removed the spout from the portafilter so I can get at the underside of it, but the disc seems pretty firmly rooted to the portafilter. So, for those who have removed it, any tips to help it on its way out?
  24. Hi all, I'm selling my Sage Duo Temp Pro after upgrading to a Sage Dual Boiler I bought the machine in July 2016 from Amazon and used it up until April 2017 when I got the DB (i.e. used for 9 months) Only one coffee drinker in our house so used occasionally on weekday mornings and usually around 4-5 shots over the weekend - so moderate usage. Almost entirely used with Britta/bottled water. Maintained well (back flush at least every week, shower screen occasionally removed and cleaned etc.) Comes with 4 baskets (single/double, pressurized/non-pressurized), single/double portafilter spouts, dose trimming tool, integrated tamper, 480ml jug, cleaning rubber disk In addition, I will also include the following: - Motta 53mm tamper (£20 on Amazon) which fits the basket very well and is a big upgrade from the tamper that comes with the machine - highly recommended. FYI - 54mm Motta tamper is too big. - A small (150ml) steaming jug (perfect for steaming ~50ml of milk if you like cortados/piccolos). If you drink flat whites I'd also recommend buying a 250ml jug to steam ~100-120ml milk - available on amazon) - A replacement water filter block. (can buy a full pack of 6 from sage online for £14) This is a great machine for a beginner and served me very well for the start of my espresso journey. Unfortunately upgraditis came thick and fast, but I thoroughly enjoyed using the machine and the results were great. Features include very quick heat up time, pre-infusion, PID and good steam power - great for learning latte art (i'm actually finding it harder on the more powerful DB after getting pretty good on the DTP). It is also very user friendly and convenient as with all Breville Sage products Pictures below. Only some minimal signs of usage but nothing out of the ordinary (e.g. small marks on the drip dray and corners) Asking for £180 + postage costs for the machine. +£15 for tamper Total price paid was £320 including the tamper. I do not have the original box so would find a new one to post. Pick up is of course also fine (London) MatBat
  25. DTP has arrived and first impressons are its rather good, feel like the right choice was made, build quality is spot on. The smart grinder will arrive later as its out of stock, so when that arrives and I get some decent beans we can really see what this coffee maker can do.
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