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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyboy993 View Post
    Bit strong Dave - too strong for me, I have to admit.

    No need for the final paragraph? fair play to Nikko to keeping objective and respectful.
    Yes, I should have added......and don't come back.......there is nothing objective or respectful about his attacks and you are mad if you think they are.....what did you think of his use of the word 'schill' then in relation to @DavecUK Kenny
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    It didn't jump out Dave - unlike your direct suggestion a forum member should 'p*ss off'.

    Certainly made my 5 mins break from work with a nice cuppa not what I expected. In my head - seeing your user ID on a thread usually means cutting through lots of bull sh*t and helping me learn something - not on this one :-(

    I'll come off the thread.
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    It's a coffee grinder.....
    Take a chill pill Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyboy993 View Post
    It didn't jump out Dave - unlike your direct suggestion a forum member should 'p*ss off'.

    Certainly made my 5 mins break from work with a nice cuppa not what I expected. In my head - seeing your user ID on a thread usually means cutting through lots of bull sh*t and helping me learn something - not on this one :-(

    I'll come off the thread.
    Kenny, I have no beef with you. however, you cannot really have a pop at me if you see nothing wrong with his comments re schill....
    A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization. Wikipedia

    Puts you rather in the position, of agreeing or disagreeing, unless of course you hide
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfk41 View Post
    If that is your interpretation, then that is fine. Please can you confirm your interest in all of this. Why do you seem hellbent on attacking both the Niche project and the reviewer. Are you miffed that no one asked you your opinion on a £500 grinder aimed at use solely in the domestic market and actually fulfils its stated aims.
    If you are not careful, people might simply think of you as bitter and twisted with an axe to grind
    you misunderstand if you think I am attacking the Niche - I have no financial interest in promoting or dissing any grinder. I was simply pointing out that recommending the Niche over the Eureka by making a virtue out of the Niche’s inability to drive the Italmill burrs is misleading.

    As it happens the OP chose a Mazzer mini. Not a bad choice in my view but not a popular one with many on this site, largely due to another davecuk review for Bellabarista, where he was using some very dodgy science to prove the superiority of the Eureka 65 over the Mini because it was absorbing more power. His reviews are rather lacking in consistency would you not say. Still good to hear that he is now a big fan of Mazzer burrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWJB View Post
    Faster grind is related to how aggressive the burr cuts, which increases load on the motor, it's swings & roundabouts.

    You haven't quantified "flimsyness" with a part life, or failure rate (which would be irrelevant, as this change was made prior to production).

    Flimsy - unsubstantial, easily damaged. Your data on this comes from where?
    My data on this comes from the Davecuk review, where he says that with the burr set B the grinder stalls. The reason for stalling is a motor of insufficent power and the consequence is self destruction. I said the Niche was flimsy with respect to the burr set B.

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    Some of the above is pointless in some ways. Niche is not intended to be as wear robust as a commercial grinder. It's aim in life is simpler home use as their web site mentions. It looks to me that it succeeds in that respect. Spares will also be readily available so parts that can wear or get damaged can be replaced. I can hazard a guess as to which part I might find myself replacing first - doesn't worry me providing pricing isn't at a level that says buy another grinder. Eg I found some where far away that sells Sage O rings for around $10 each. Much cheaper than buying a new machine but clearly ridiculous. The cost of Dyson filters is very likely to cause me to stop buying the brand.

    There has been a sort of query about motor protection. We know from comments that it's a 10k rpm motor which sets it's type, probably not brushless. Motor design is a pretty specialised subject but essentially a motor will try to take as much current as it needs to get it to turn. The limit is the resistance of the windings which for various reasons can't be too high related to the power the motor needs to provide and also it's size. So if one is stalled best thing to do is switch of quickly. Protection from stall currents isn't something I have often seen other than when it's been designed in. The result is a lot less power from the same volume of motor. Lots of things are protected from long term use or overloads of sufficient duration to cause the motor to heat up to worrying levels. The usual way is via the heat of the body of the motor. It generally y results in a fairly long period before it resets as motors can gain heat quickly but only loose it slowly. The manual suggests Niche uses that but who knows some one some where may have come up with a little box of tricks. Personally I would wonder about the use of a fuse.

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