Mrboots2u

Then don't look on youtube , invariable people are using products given to them or they are selling. There are tampers out there that have levelling mechs on them , but really with a little practice is should be too hard to get a level tamp with any well fitting tamper

For 2500 dollars id want better then a bottom entry grinder tbh but sage/breville only really to that grinder . It doesnt help when you see people single dosing the thing too. It proper isnt designed to cope with that

Will need to be around the £1100 mark. Sometimes retro is a design decision , sometimes its coz they just aint changed the design for 30 years

not sure id be paying £1.5 k for the specs of this. A Bianca can be had for £1700-1800 If it's say £800 then people might look at it , given the silvia price at the moment , i doubt it though . Be interested to see how they are running the 0.3 litre brew boiler and the temp management it has . 1 litre steam boiler , it has a temperature indicator not a PID ? Photo looks like a franken silvia , looks wise is pretty dated or like they just cant be bothered to make a new machine. Steam boiler is 1litre so on the small side too? The drip tray looks tiny ? which was really frustrating on the slivia , can it be plumbed ? Looks like a half arsed response on paper with old bits from the factory , lastly it is neither shiny nor a kitchen friendly home appliance looks wise

You can still make shots unlevel with them if you are cack handed, are you just looking got stuff to buy or trying to solve a specific issue with these things ? There are some cheap palm tampers on amazon and ebay ... Get a 58.4 and above

Gf is already using a sage grinder and a bambino, want be any worse than that. All bean to cup have consistency problems and none of em are perfect plug and plays, it the compromise you have to live with. Problems arise with the Oracle when users think they are getting something that is akin to a commercial volumetric machine , that will also dose and tamp for you . I know it marketed like this, but it doesnt and can't do that. It can tamp and dose and make half decent milk drinks for people that use medium to dark ish beans are not too fussy about what's in the cup ..

18 in a 22g baskets can lead to horrible channeling same if you under dose any basket that much, just going finer does not stop this. Re different baskets with Sage machines , dunno, what each machine is supplied with. The Oracle will dose you 22g out the box, id stick to that.

Also I agree with this . In all honesty the oracle is massively overpriced I suspect the nub of this though is counter space

I had an oracle ( non touch ) and Niche set up. Milk steaming is really good. For you, with the manual grinder, you would be keeping the same basket between you or having two portafilter s? the Oracle runs best with the supplied basket which it will dose 22g into, so you need to think about how to keep this simple between two grinder? Perhaps separate pf' with different sized baskets. or run the Niche set up with the same 22g basket . Oracle you can control time of pre infusion to about 10 seconds via reducing the pump pressure , DB you can run this reduce pump pressure for 60 seconds. Sounds like you do not use this. You can run a non touch oracle manually for yourself , the volume button is not good enough to give you the same weigh out consistently for your niche set up. I would still use it with scales. the auto button I suspect It will, for your Gf make no worse coffee than bambino . If there is anything I can help with ask away I would not get a touch , all the make your own drink menus are a waste of time .

perhaps age them in a bin ....:)

some of those mahogany roasts are past needing any more smoky needing added.

silvia, especially non pidded are not easy to tame (temp surfing is not a skill , just something cheaper machines make you do ) .i had one :). either machine will be easier to get more consistent shots from.

yes

leave it on all the time.....

just bear in mind , i suspect rocket spend alot on branding etc compared to lelit. There are only a couple of lelit dealers in the UK.BB and one in lincs. there are more rocket owners out there than lelit at mo, so you will read more and see more about em than lelit, its just a natural function of numbers of owners. lelit did a cracking job on the bianca which brought a ton of fearures to the market and at less than a r58.. make of that what you will.. for clarity, never owned a rocket , own a bianca. so add those facts to the noise and opinions you will hear. im sure either machine will make great coffee with a decent grinder and some skill.