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    Just wondering if anyone has dealings with them as an existing coffee shop owner or have considered them as suppliers for a new startup? I'm thinking particularly in respect of their espresso machine/grinder rental package which, not surprisingly, obliges you to use them as your bean supplier too.

    I thought the support side that they offered (i.e. servicing, barista training, etc) was quite attractive but am not convinced that the equipment that they provide is great value for money. Also, the beans seem a bit on the expensive side even compared to the likes of Has Bean who have as good a reputation as any. I'm guessing they increase their coffee prices for machine rental customers as they know they have you tied in and can get away with it.

    Would be interested to hear the opnions of any others who either use them or decided not to after weighing up the pros and cons of their package

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    Cant say much about MA other than I stopped at cafe on A9 (Ralia Cafe, about 40 miles south of Inverness if you are ever driving up that way!) which was serving MA coffee and it was very nice
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    Around 6 months ago they increased their bean & rental prices by circa 40%! I feel they are now aiming for the bigger contracts and catering less for the independants. They have all the M&S Cafe contracts for example.

    To be honest I don't like the coffee of theirs that I've tried - all too dark + bitter.

    That said, I am now delivering training as an external tutor for a training academy who have a tie-in with Matthew Algie, so I will be working with their coffee more and opinions may change, who knows!

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    Personally I wouldn't, there are plenty of other options out there and you can get better coffee cheaper from the likes of as you said has bean and the like, I would suggest James Gourmet, who'll possibly put you in touch with la spaziale uk and you can rent an s5 k30 combo.

    As for training depending on where you're based you can get training, from elsewhere albeit at a cost.

    James Gourmet coffee is fantastic and although I'm not a fan of la spaziale I know plenty who are
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    That's interesting about their prices. I did think they were a bit nippy and the cost is far in excess of what you'd be to buy or lease a machine. Of course they'll say the rental price covers everything else thrown in (grinder, training, etc) but the increased cost of coffee over the year just adds to your costs further.

    The freedom to go try other roasters and blends is very important too though. Just didn't like the idea of the tie in.

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    Having attempted to drink coffee in M&S Cafe and failed several times owing to it being too bitter, if they use MA beans then I'd say go elsewhere.
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    Their staff are lovely... every one of the many that I've met. They deliver great service. Machines are good. They are popular all across Scotland. They sponsor the UKBC and can count UKBC judges within their staff. They must be doing something right. I just don't like their beans, having received samples of two of their blends last year. And those beans were not competitively priced.

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    Sorry, I should have pointed out that my opinion was based purely on taste having not long discovered decent coffee. I have had no previous experience of them. Hope I've not spoken out of turn. I was trying to get across that most coffee shop customers don't know a good coffee but milk can only mask so much. Plus if the beans are more expensive, will this be reflected in your drink price? I drank a latte from a well known chain 5 days a week for years
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    Yeah, I met a few of their staff at Caffe Culture and was initially very impressed but wasn't quite as bowled over by the sales menager I met recently if I'm being honest. Coincidentally I had coffee at a place they supply on Saturday which was pretty poor but I'd put this more down to the technique of the girl who made it opposed to the equipment or beans.

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    Does anyone have any recent experience of Matthew Algie as regards supplying the full package?

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